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Jason Abbadon
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SO not clicking on that link.

Pensive, I think that (in the U.S.) for animated stuff to qualify as child p0rn in the states, it must depict a real person.

Which I agree with generally- it's just moving art- no matter how gross, no real people are being harmed. That;s no different than the violene or sexual situation in comic books- not real and not depicting real people.

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Teh PW
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RofL, that little black cat did get owned (Oh a play thing for me to attack? AK! NOES MORES BUTZ SEX!)

RoFL but cally thinks video games are peps. if thier law becomes cannon, does that mean some other fuck wad will put a prop to illegalize comic books? or webcomics? or lemons? Romance novels? thoughts?

[im actually worried about someone (dating type) so thats why im more emotional this morn o.O]

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Teh PW
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Well, this certainly IS pedobear material, on (you guessed it!) Aamazon!

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So much for freedom of speech. If you find something objectionable, don't pay any attention to it! Someone else may like it, and that someone else may find your favourite thing objectionable and bitch and moan to get it eliminated. Fuck, I hate people. [Mad]

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Daniel Butler
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I agree. You can't start saying what's acceptable to say and what isn't, not from a group/social standpoint anyway. Where do you draw the line?
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Teh PW
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at children. It's stupid but defence starts with protecting your young (which the last time i checked with a friend was the parents/guardian's responsiblity)

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Daniel Butler
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Then where do you draw the line at what's harmful to children? Drugs? Nudity? ..>Seeing gay people together? Hearing alternate opinions on the creation of Earth? I had an uncle by marriage who flew into a rage when he found out his son was reading science fiction, because he thought reading about things that weren't real would warp his mind.
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Teh PW
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if he was my uncle 'id flip the bird and tell him to go fuck himself, sir'. as for where the line is? that should be determined by YOUR parents, not goverement, Dan... that was my point. when you fuck away rules that mom & dad set, you get grounded. when you fuck away a goverment rule, you get jailed(possibly)

you get exposed to comcepts & prejudgious at home first. So if mom & dad are flaming homophobes, your gonna have issues in high school & adulthood.

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Daniel Butler
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Yeah, that was my point too. My previous post (that you replied to with 'the line is protect the children') was that you shouldn't be able to legislate what people can say, because where do you draw the line? So...I think we agree but miscommunicated.
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Da_bang80
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God I'm glad I don't have kids and don't really need to deal with this crap.

Although I will say that it IS the parent/legal guardians responsibility to protect their children from exposure to harmful influences whether it's violent video games, movies, tv, pedos, drugs & alcohol and the like.

The problem is that most kids get exposed to that stuff before or regardless of parental intervention. You can't unexpose your children to these things, at the same time most children are maturing much younger than most parents realize, and unless they've been exposed to pedos and drugs they usually turn out pretty well adjusted.

Anyways as for the topic at hand, no I don't consider naked CARTOON characters to be child pornography in the sense that some kid somewhere is being abused. It doesn't float my boat, but I fail to see how a drawing, no matter how obscene, should be made illegal.

I saw a very well made nude drawing of Miley Cyrus once. Someone obviously put a lot of time into it because it did a good job of portraying the uglyness. Is that child pornography? I dunno... Was it really gross? Just a bit...

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Daniel Butler
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You could make the argument that using someone's image in any way without their permission has the potential to harm them (emotionally or possibly financially) and so infringes on their personality rights, but I don't think it should specifically be illegal if it's the image of a real child; it should be illegal if it's the image of anyone real at all (excepting artistic merit, and yeah, I know how difficult that is to adjudicate, but it's the only way fanboys/girls sketching their favorite character are gonna get away with it).
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Jason Abbadon
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I agree with the notion that real people should not be depicted that way (though often are via Photoshop fakery and the like), but this is a case of nothing remotely real being represented.
At most, this should be a potential copyright infringment issue if Fox wanted to presue it...which I doubt, as it would only draw (no pun intended) further attention to the subject.

Huh...I wonder if Austrailla has Offender type laws like in the US- and if this places the convicted man in some category with real pedos...

Where's Andrew in all this? It's his crazy contry after all!

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