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First: Yes, which is why I didn't want to rip you for that. But anecdotal evidence is, in general, very very bad. Hell, anecdotal evidence would lead all of you who know me to think that socialists are a bit crazy.
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I already thought that. You just confirmed it.
Hm. If the government were to legalize all drugs, necessarily they'd want to tax and heavily regulate them. To, essentialy, make it a government monopoly.
Then the question becomes, do you want the US federal government having sole control of the hearts and minds of several million addicts?
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And I have had fairly good experience (belive me, I do live in Romford and Walthamstow) or people who do pot. Hell, to have experience of people who drink in Britain, you just have to come to Britain, and out of all of them, I can countthe number who went on to take Heroin in one hand.The thing is, you coul dhave guessed when he was about 12. total gobshite he was. Stealing, shagging around, always knew that he'd never get caught.
Still, I love the argument that people who do drugs to have fun live very boring lives. Especially coming from a canadian, well renound for being the most happening place on Earth. Even your clubs sell Bovril.
And Jay was right. Several people's arguments about grugs sound remarkably similar to anti-gun arguments. hmm...
Actually, the worst thing about pot (and smoking) is that it affects people next to you. Drinking doesn't. Which is why it's better to do in public.
Addiction isn't a cause of problems. It's a sympton of a deaper problem. And, to finish, anyone who says that Marijuana is more harmful to you than drinking or smoking? Bollocks!
Oh, and to whoever said "is alcohol a drug?". Of course it bloody is.
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I already posted this in the "Damn you Guinness!" thread, but I think it's appropriate here.
quote:Personal experience:
When I went to basic training, I had been "indulging" in the nasty illegal herb for over a year. Not continuously, but frequently.
[Side note:] I told the folks at the induction center, not to get out of enlisting, but because if you tell them about it first, it won't be an issue if it comes out later (like being investigated for a security clearance). They sent me to the psychiatrist, who asked me, alternately:
"Do you need marijuana to get to sleep at night?"
Me: "No."
"Do you think you can follow orders?"
Me: "Yes."
He asked those two questions several times, rephrasing them each time. I'm not sure what the point of the exercise was, unless it was to see if I'd get confused and answer differently than before. He wrote something very illegible onto a form and told me to take it to the next station. They let me enlist. (I have since seen that very document and examined it carefully. It is completely illegible. For all I know he may have written down "This guy is a nut-case! Don't even THINK about letting him enlist!"
[Back to the subject:] I had been in basic training for over two weeks when something amazing happened. I was standing guard duty, studying my little "How to Be an Airman" manual (not the real title) when I suddenly realized: My memory had come back!
This was doubly amazing since, up till then, I hadn't noticed it's absence!
My guess is that, if marijuana were legalized, anyone who uses the stuff should be restricted from certain jobs (care to drive or operate heavy machinery?) until they have been off the stuff for some period of time? How long? I don't know if my case is typical. I look back and figure I was a heavy user, but I also realize that I knew some folks who, while not burned out as I was, seemed to recover their faculties much more quickly than I.
With Alcohol, there is a large body of knowledge regarding how much is too much, and how long one must wait for your body to metabolize the alcohol, prior to doing anything requiring all your wits and coordination. Pilots have a saying: "12 hours between the bottle and the throttle." While inaccurate, it is not completely so. With Marijuana, I would suspect that the amount of time between indulgence and full unimpairment would be significantly longer. I do not plan to resume using the leafy stuff when I am fully retired from the AF, mainly because I missed so much during my burnout days. I had fun, but I can't clearly remember what it was that was so much fun.
Legalize? If you must, but carefully!
--Baloo
The moral of this story is, when you tinker with drugs of any sort, do your homework and be careful! Most of them tinker back.
--Baloo
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Like I said, I don't use, advocate the use of, or condone the use of Marijuana. It's really the only drug that I've been in contact with, and nobody's tried to force me to do it.
I'm acquaintances with people who do smoke it, and they don't seem all that funny or intelligent. I guess once you hit college, pot affects you differently, and you become highly philosophical and have mental clarity.
Marijuana use itself doesn't bother me. I have a fairly laissez-faire attitude towards, where I think it's the person's decision, not mine. Of course, I think it's a stupid decision, but that's just me. I'm not going to change their minds, so I don't try. I'll just be happy when I go to my high school reunion and see how many of the 'stoners' actually got somewhere in life, because it doesn't look they're going anywhere right now.
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Unfortunalty I've thrown away my big book of marijuana clippings, so you'll have to wait until Monday.
Id o know two medical doctors, one surgeon, and 5 medical graduates. All of whom say that smoking fags is far more dangerous than pot.
And UM: You're making my point. The people you mention aren't going to fail in life (if they do), because they smoke a lot of pot. It's because they are lazy, unambitious slobs.
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' "Actually, the worst thing about pot (and smoking) is that it affects people next to you. Drinking doesn't." Unless you're drunk and you crash into someone.'
You're talking about drink-driving there. Which is going into another area. Besides, you could do that sober.
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You, uh, can't drive drunk while you're sober
------------------ I bet when Neanderthal kids would make a snowman, someone would always end up saying "Don't forget the big heavy eyebrows." Then they would all get embarrassed because they remembered they had the big hunky eyebrows too, and then they would get mad and eat the snowman.
I meant that you can still crach into someone, without drinking. But that's by the by. I was making the point that a group of people drinking in a pub only consume what they want to consume. Sitting with smokers, pot or tobacco, you don't have a choice. Which is why, although I don't have a problem with dope, I wouldn't want it to be smoked in public places. I'm not a great fan of my mates haivng fagswhile I dirnk at the pub, but I can live with it. As long as the air recyclers are working.
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"I'm not a great fan of my mates having fags while I drink at the pub, but I can live with it."
It's a Good thing you're British.
------------------ I bet when Neanderthal kids would make a snowman, someone would always end up saying "Don't forget the big heavy eyebrows." Then they would all get embarrassed because they remembered they had the big hunky eyebrows too, and then they would get mad and eat the snowman.
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At my radio station there is a push by many of the DJs, almost all the smokers, to make that an American thing too. We have a standing order to say, if we need a smoke, that we're "going to go blow a fag"
The admin doesn't seem to like it, but...
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