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Curry Monster
Somewhere in Australia
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Only time I ever came across racism was in outback Australia...we stopped off in a town to get some KFC and some hoons drove past screaming insults at some of my Chinese & Thai classmates.

Losers.....

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Jubilee
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*enters the thread finally*
I have never cared about that stuff. These people, to me, were people I grew up with ... and the only difference I could see was that their tans never went away during the winter. *LOL* ..

but it all depends on where and how and when we were raised, doesnt it? ... If I had been raised to think that Negro's were "N-rs" ... I may still call them that today. Especially if I got away with it when I did.

As Baloo has said. .. it's a problem we have to deal with every day....

and The first problem lies in recognizing that it still exists.

It has, perhaps, just gotten a little less blatant.

Well... it exists in other forms, too. For instance, I am openly bi-sexual at my college, and am still called a "dyke" or a "queer" ... or a "Lesbo" .... People think it's okay. I correct them. But that's the way they were raised ... and like I said... the first thing you have to do is realize it still exists and take every measure to stop it. Because if it's tolerated .. tolerance="It's okay to do that". And that's not the message we want to get accross, is it?

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Diane
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Jeff & others: the term "nigger" is a corruption of the word "niggard," not "negro". I think First has the correct meaning of it.

I'm not really surprised that there are people like that in a big, diverse city, Ryan. I once saw a map of supremacist and hate group locations, and large cities and states with diverse populations have the largest numbers of them. Why? Well, one can't really start a hate group against certain people if one lives in a mostly homogenous state like North Dakota or someplace.

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The First One
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Political Correctionists say that if the word 'nigger' was removed of its connotations somehow, that it would lose its power to cause division - ie, just a word, not a rallying cry. But I don't think so. It's an ugly word, and one that deserves to fade out of use along with the hatred it represents.
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First of Two
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Okay, so.. why is it racist when we (white folks, I mean) use it, but not when they (black folks, I mean) use it? I hear black folks (guys, mostly) calling each other that word all the time, but nobody gets into fistfights about it..

That bit always confused me.

I know a lesbian woman who calls herself a "dyke" but would (and could) kick the a$$ of any man who said it to her face. I know two gay guys who call each other "fag" all the time. I even know a bunch of Italian guys who call themselves "the Wop party."

What gives? Is it only "correct" and innofensive to use a racial, ethnic, or religious slur if you happen to BELONG to that race, ethnicity, or religion?

If so.. I need some new jokes. Is there a derogatory word for a Scotsman besides "a scotsman?"

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Montgomery
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Yes, call them "English".

Now I don't find this offensive, but 90% of Scots would tear out your bronchii if you called them that. It's a funny old world.

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Jubilee
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I call myself a dyke in public (even though I'm BI), and probably would kill the man who said it to my face ...so let me see if I can explain it.

If I adopt a name for myself that has a past shadowed in shame and disrepute, like "Dyke" .. and am openly accepting that I am one... I am showing the world that
A: The horrible word they've come up with to call me isn't going to work because I'm calling MYSELF that.
B: I'm openly accepting my "Dyke-ness" whole-heartedly ... therefore any slights anyone speaks are going to be ignored.
C: It's a way to help me accept MYSELF.


Now, the reason I would punch the person who said that to my face (except perhaps another lesbian/bi /gay person who was saying it as a joke), is because we're trying to gain acceptance and tolerance and this won't happen if we keep LETTING them use that word in a derogatory way.
But it depends on the context, too. It depends on if they're using the word as a slur, or just joking around. And believe me, you CAN tell.
Anyways, the point is... by punching the guy who calls me that and is using it to slight me, I am clearly making the point that such behavior will NOT be tolerated.

Hope that was useful

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[This message was edited by Jubilee McGann on April 07, 1999.]


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PsyLiam
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Monty, what about if you called them 'Welsh'? Is that better or worse than calling them 'English'?

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Ryan McReynolds
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Ironically, I use the word "nigga" all the time with my black friends. They call me their "white nigga" and I call them "my niggaz" right back at them... but that's becasue we're friends, and that's just how we're accustomed to talking to one another. if I went up to a random black guy on the street and said "what's up my nigga" I would probably be killed shortly thereafter... =)

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RW
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You should know how often I've been called redhead names. People say they don't mean it, but I think it's as bad as calling a black person a nigger. It's scary that bullying redheads is as commonplace now as bullying jews was before the war. Will there be redhead concentration camps?

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I must admit that racism is my least favourite thing in the world.

My philosophy on life is to treat people as a bag of blood.
Okay - maybe it is a rather sick vision - but that is what we are - and down in a basic way we are all the same.

My wife is half Indian and is one of the nicest people I know. Just because she has a tan all year round and it gets way darker after 20 minutes in the sun (no exageration - something which p*sses me off to this day me being a white lard ass LOL!) does not make her any different.
She is human - end of story.
Anyone who is a racist on the other hand is not human - they are bags of Sh*t - not blood.

Last person that said something untowards about my wife learnt very quickly never to say something like that again.
Anyone who has met me knows I have a vicious streak in me verbally, and I am not that small either. (5' 10" - 14 Stone - 44" chest - 13" Biceps - the name fatmess is a parady)

.........hummm - best stop ranting....

Me dont like racists.

Gone

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RW
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stupid question: how much is a stone?

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Jubilee
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about seven pounds, here or thereabouts.. I think....

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The First One
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14 pounds actually. Odd, Chris, you and I are of roughly similar build, I'm an inch and a half taller though. . . do you have much problem finding suits that fit with a chest that size? I do - if you don't have a six-inch differenetial between your waist and chest measurements, you're condemned to too-tight jackets or too-loose trousers. I have an eight-inch difference, and (ahem) it should be ten. . . *goes on diet*

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Sol System
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And the level of discourse grows ever more esoteric.

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