To make the long story short, the idea is to impose tariffs against cheap foreign-made steel (currently being 'dumped' on the market, according to the financial channels), to protect our own industries and economy. Which is sound, financially.
But there's a side effect. Most of this cheap, foreign steel comes from foundries in China. Foundries that make our dirtiest mills look like a hospital surgical ward by comparison. Foundries that pollute ten times more than ones in the US, spewing sulfur dioxide and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.
Less production = less pollution. Just doing out part, but you can hold the applause, since you'll hold it anyway.
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I'm not sure if I agree/disagree with the righteousness of the move, but I don't think it's a horrible idea. It's not like Americans need to put another two SUV's in their garages before the year is out.
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Well, since you're doing it mainly to protect (as you say) you're own industries and economy, it's not especially noble when good comes out of it.
Look! I set fire to people! But I destroyed nasty bacteria while doing it.
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Let's see. By passing this law, we're protecting our economy, and thus protecting jobs; we're protecting the environment; AND we're helping speed up the eventual destruction of the Chinese government. Bad... where?
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I wouldn't go that far, Omega. We all know of your outright hatred of the Chinese Commies and such, but perhaps you could talk in a more "reconciliary" tone.
It's a good law. It will at the very least allow the Chinese government to clean up its act. As soon as they stop whining.
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I've decided to use this post to point out every time I can find that the Bush administration does something pro-environment. This will no doubt cause great gnashing of teeth and tearing of hair among the funnier doomsayers.
I read somewhere about a new Everglades-protecting initiative, and saw somewhere else where there's money going to the national parks to help take care of the maintenance backlog (hmm, how'd that backlog pile up during the Clinton/Gore overseer era? I thought they were PRO-wildlife areas?) Unfortunately, I haven't linked to those yet.
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Now if he can reverse his stand of the Oil fields and put more money into research for Alternative sources of energy.........
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All hail George W Bush - the champion of the green campaign and the new global spokesman on green issues.
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Omega: I never said it was bad. Your English reading = bad.
I'm just not going to suddenly start praising the all mighty George Dubya just because one of his laws to protect the US also happens to help the world.
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We all know of your outright hatred of the Chinese Commies and such, but perhaps you could talk in a more "reconciliary" tone.
One does not reconcile with evil people in control of the largest army on the planet and the ability to nuke any city anywhere (thank you, Bill), and who have no conscience. One destroys them. Don't you get it? We're talking about a handful of people who are trampling the rights of over a fifth of the planet, and threatening the security of the rest of it! If given the choice between allowing someone like that to continue and stopping them, you STOP THEM.
Liam:
I'm just not going to suddenly start praising the all mighty George Dubya just because one of his laws to protect the US also happens to help the world.
So then just what WILL you praise him for? If he passed a law that you thought helped China while hurting us, you'd undoubtedly say he wasn't doing his job.
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What one does is to make most favored nation trade status permanent!
That is aside from wiping them off the face of the earth because we and they disagree. Other than that priceless bit of information there's not much else I can glean from your post.
Damn those evil people. I wish we could paint them with a broader brush...I'd better go to The Home Depot!
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quote: What one does is to make most favored nation trade status permanent!
Okay. How long have they had that status, what's changed in that time, and how will we know when it starts working?
Personally, I think any recent reform in China is more due to some of the old hard-liners dying off than to any real economic influence.
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The point I make is that there are many in Washington who, as conservative as anyone here, don't care to make the Chinese into mincemeat because of any personal feelings of evilness (but that won't stop our dear board mates from huriling moral invictives about like rice). Preferring instead to take that 'economic freedom' and the American lack of linking MFN status to human rights route and line their own pockets thereby not doing a derned thing.
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Saltah'na
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One destroys them. Don't you get it?
No, and I won't say anymore.
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"So then just what WILL you praise him for?"
If he does something that helps the world, off his own back, and doesn't just help the US. Cutting Co2 emmissions, researching alternative sources of power, cutting third world debt, making Mojo Jojo the new Vice-President, something along those lines.
Or he could send me a birthday card. One isn't too much to ask for.
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