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BlueElectron
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http://home-news.excite.ca/news/cp/010622/14/two-boys-now

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The boys dragged and led the toddler three kilometres through town to a railway line, where they hit him with bricks and metal bars, poured paint in his eyes and finally placed him on the tracks where a train cut him in half.

iiiiiiiiish.....damn, these two kids sure were violent at that time.

And why are their pictures released to the public? I thought it is illegal to do so, because they were under-age, and their identities needed to be kept secret.

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Daniel
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Depends. I know that's a United States law, but is it law in Britain too? And now that they're 18...hmm. Well, I only scanned the article, if it says somewhere the pictures were released prior to this date then the previous has no basis.

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Cripes man!! I don't know what to say!
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Shoot the fuckers! That's what I say.

If they could do that then, just think what they could do now! I know that they are meant to have been rehabilitated and all, but I don't buy that at all. 8 Years! That's 8 more years that that poor little boy had, and they'll still be allowed to live to a ripe old age with money and a roof over their heads - the system bloody well sucks!!!

If they're not gonna be shot then they should be locked in a cold, wet and dark cell with no food and water and then have the key melted so that no one can get then out again. If you don't want to go for that then - hit them with bricks and metal bars, poured paint in their eyes and finally place them on the tracks where a train can cut them in half - give them a taste of their own fucking medicine. People like them should be put down at birth.

That's my two pence on the matter - I believe in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth and that the British law is far far too soft. I mean - Person A is killed by Person B and Person B gets life imprisonment (25 years). Ten years later they get out because of good behaviour. But if a law abiding citizen kills someone in self-defence they don't get good behaviour benefits, they have to stay in for 25 years until they get their first review and even then they may end up staying in prison until they die or are at least very old. Shite! Absolutely shite!

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Um... In that article, people kept going on about how the two should be kept in prison because they hadn't been punished enough. How about the fact that they're obviously a couple of unimaginably sick fucks, and releasing them puts a lot of people at risk? I mean, killing someone is one thing. But what they did proves that they are not at all in their right minds. They should be locked away just because they're a danger to society...
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PsyLiam
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Calm down.

Okay, first.

Their pictures haven't been released to the public. I have no idea where you got that idea from. There pictures are not allowed to be released in this country. Of course, that law doesn't apply to other countries, so if someone gets a picture of them, and puts it on a French hosted web-site (for example), that's prefectly legal.

"I believe in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth and that the British law is far far too soft."

I would quote Delenn here, but that would be far too sad. I should point out that in almost all other European countries, they'd have gotten off far lighter, as they would have been under the age of criminal responsibility. They'd have gotten off far lighter. I can't think of any wesern country where they would have received capital punishment. I don't think that even the US is fucked up enough to kill 10 year old kids, no matter what they have done.

"If they're not gonna be shot then they should be locked in a cold, wet and dark cell *snip* People like them should be put down at birth."

Do I need to point out the slight flaw in that argument?

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PsyLiam
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Oh,

"Person A is killed by Person B and Person B gets life imprisonment (25 years). Ten years later they get out because of good behaviour. But if a law abiding citizen kills someone in self-defence they don't get good behaviour benefits, they have to stay in for 25 years until they get their first review and even then they may end up staying in prison until they die or are at least very old. Shite! Absolutely shite!"

Are we basing that on any sort of precendent? Any at all? Or have we just taken too many antihistamines today?

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The laws a bitch, it's the same everywhere. Live with it. By letting these guys out, there is the obvious double standards as far as Myra Hindley is concerned - she's not being let out although Thompson and Venables are out. But will they ever be free? Do you honestly think they'll ever be able to freely walk the streets without the fear that someone might recognise them and disembowel them with a spoon? If they get found out, that's it - THEY'RE DEAD! Letting them out is probably a worse sentence than actually keeping them inside - especially if they're sent to live in Wales!

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Ecch! Being sent to live in Wales would be bad enough, I say!
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In the case of naming so called young offenders, such young offenders SHOULD be named if they are being tried for more serious crimes like attempted murder onwards. As well, they should face adult like sentences.

I sympathize with most Brits who oppose this decision to release these two monsters.

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You know, something strikes me about this murder.

That something being the fact that these two children were TEN YEARS OLD.

There is no way someone should recieve the death penalty for a crime committed while a child. Now, granted, being that the super vast majority of Europe doesn't have the death penalty, they're clear on that area (to bad the US's record isn't as clear). Shame on Blue Electron and others on this board for suggesting that the killings of two children would solve anything.

But, back to the age.

TEN YEARS OLD!

TEN YEARS OLD!

How many people here did something when they were 10 that they know better about now in their teens or twenties or thirties?

It is wrong and mind-boggling to charge children as ADULTS. If you can charge a 10-year old as an adult, well, that 10-year old should also have that same right as adults: driving, drinking, voting, etcetra.

It's one thing to make the case of trying someone as an adult if they're at least in that age range -- say, about 16 or so -- but TEN?! TEN?! And the DEATH PENALTY? No way! Try 'em as an adult if you want, but I fail to see what's solved by executing someone for a crime committed as a minor.

I'm sorry. I just find it ridiculous that boys of ten are being held to the same standards as if two 20-year olds had done this.

You want to keep them in jail? I can understand that.

You want to try them as adults? Can't really understand that ...

You want to kill them? Sounds like you're a sick fuck yourself.

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But they are 18 now. They are 18 and have killed someone. They should be punished accordingly.

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First of all I'd like to explain that my status line is entirely Tupac Shakur related, and has nothing to do whatsoever with this topic.

Now that we have that out of the way, I think that they shouldn't be killed, but still placed in a maximum security prison, where they can be someone's bitch and go thorough some suffering at least, instead of the cushy treatment they got.

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No, Harry.

They didn't kill someone when they were eighteen. They killed someone when they were ten.

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PsyLiam
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Yes Harry. What are you proposing? That when someone hits 18, they should be backward punished for everything they did wrong before that age?

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