Saltah'na
Chinese Canadian, or 75% Commie Bastard.
Member # 33
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Okie Dokie. Pretty much everyone knows about that protester killed during the G8 summit of world leaders. Here are the facts.
- There are pictures clearly showing the protester preparing to throw something that resembles a fire extinguisher or a small propane tank at a police vehicle. - The Police vehicle has no windows. Plus, the tank is very heavy when full, and can even kill someone if you chuck it at his head. - A Cop shoots the protestor. Most likely in self defense. How would you like it if your head connected with a Fire Extinguisher coming in at 50 Km/h. Very painful and potentially fatal too. - In the ensuing frenzy and confusion, the driver accidently runs over same protestor. Not that it would have mattered anyway, chances are that the protester was already dead. - The protester is among the so-called anarchists who try to make us think that they are rallying for a good cause, but they are only here to make a ruckus.
Already, some protestors are calling the dead idiot a martyr for the cause. Note that these are the anarchists who are saying this and the other legitimate demonstrators (the peaceful ones, who only want open dialogue) have already distanced themselves from the shooting.
Whether or not he asked for it, well, he was holding a potentially lethal object. I let you guys decide.
It is a good thing that all political leaders are condemning the shooting. Such violence should not be allowed under any circumstances. While Italy may hold a measure of regret in this incident, it should not be held accountable for the actions of some morons who don't know anything else other than to pick a fight.
This is "Left-Leaning" Tahna Los here, signing off.
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The dead guy was an idiot. The anarchists are idiots.
Think of it as evolution in action.
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Exactly. Demonstrations are fine. We SHOULD have demonstrations and protests, mostly becuse they stimulate thought and discussions (although I still class most protestors in the 'chanting sheep' category, sopme of them do have some small reasoning capacity.)
But get violent, attack people, and you should EXPECT violence in return. Throw concrete at me, and I'll damn well open up on YOU.
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Da_bang80
A few sectors short of an Empire
Member # 528
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That's how i think. the only way to stop people from being violent is by showing them that thier violence will have severe consequences, that may cause injury to themselves. like the dog who backs down when it's master raises his hand. that sort of thing. i'm not camparing people to dogs... well most people anyway, but he got what was comin to him. it was a shame he had to die. but he woulda stayed alive if he never threatend nobody.
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Saltah'na
Chinese Canadian, or 75% Commie Bastard.
Member # 33
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The Anarchists still maintain that it was an EVIL ACT to shoot the protester. He did not have to die, they say.
Fine, the officer COULD have shot him in the leg to debilitate him and such. But keep in mind that the situation was never in the control of the police. It was mayhem, absolute mayhem, and for some police in the line of fire, the only thing one can think of is to get out ALIVE.
The officer should not be charged. To do so is to play into the hand of the Anarchists.
-------------------- "And slowly, you come to realize, it's all as it should be, you can only do so much. If you're game enough, you could place your trust in me. For the love of life, there's a tradeoff, we could lose it all but we'll go down fighting...." - David Sylvian FreeSpace 2, the greatest space sim of all time, now remastered!
Orion Syndicate
He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!
Member # 25
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GOOD! They should have shot the rest of them while they were at it. These people aren't interested in peaceful protest - they go there to fight. The more that are gone, the better.
Globalisation is a fact of life and IMHO is beneficial to society. It's society's fault anyway - they want cheaper goods and services at a higher quality. Sourcing their suppliers abroad and taking advantage of cheaper labour is a way for companies to achieve this. The day people stop complaining about paying higher prices and demanding better quality at the same time will be the day that they have a right to complain about the harmful effects of globalisation.
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Da_bang80
A few sectors short of an Empire
Member # 528
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some people will use any excuse to start a fight. This guy once tried to pick a fight with me at a convienience store cause i had a coke instead of a pepsi. he was drunk out of his mind so i showed him my switchblade. and told him to f*ck off.
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The newspaper also have a picture of the standoff (before the violent started I guess).
These protest dudes are armed with helmet, gas mask, even police shield!!??
Peaceful demonstration with those equipments? Give me a break!
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"he was drunk out of his mind so i showed him my switchblade. and told him to f*ck off."
Ahh, the strange US mentality where it's quite okay to describe acts of violence, as long as no naughty words are said.
Switchblade was the best Mask toy, by far. I'm not sure what the use was turning from a helicopter to a jet, but it looked good. It pissed all over Thunderhawk, that's for sure.
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Pulling a knife on a guy, not to mention drunk, is wimpish.
If you're a man, pump some iron in the gym, then take the guy with your fist.
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BlueElectron: So, every time you want someone to stop bothering you, you simply jack them in the face, rather than convincing them to go away without physically harming them?
Y'know, if you pull a knife on someone, you can scare them off w/o anyone else seeing the knife. If you hit them, they can have you arrested for battery.
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Nah, people don't usually pick fight with me, just because I'm pretty big and I stay fit.
Beside, if a guy (not drunk) piss you off that much, he probably deserve a punch in the face any way.
I don't know about you guys, but ppl here in Canada usually stick to "no weapon" rule. If you're in a brawl, and you don't pull no weapons, you'll get some bruses, and that's the worst it can get.
If you pull a knife, then anything go, who knows what could happen next?
Beside, drunk ppl do crazy shit, most of the time I just laugh it off and walk away. The worst I can get is push the drunk away and told him I've had enough, and I politely walk away. He doesn't know any better, his system is fill with alcohol, you don't even need to punch him, just push him and he'll be on the ground.
But pull a knife on a complete DRUNK??!! You know what that imply? It imply that you're a scared little puppy that's showing your teeth and trying to making supposeingly big noises to scare off people. Someone's lucky enough that the drunk got no friends to make an example out of him.
And one must think about why he get picked on, I've rarely get picked on my entire life. It's the way you act.
-------------------- "George Washington said, 'I cannot tell a lie.' Richard Nixon said, 'I cannot tell the truth.' Bill Clinton said, 'I cannot tell the difference.'"
-- comedian TOM SMOTHERS, from his latest stage act with brother DICK SMOTHERS.
Da_bang80
A few sectors short of an Empire
Member # 528
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I do live in canada. but i don't like drunks harassing me when i'm trying to walk home. the convenience store i was at was across the street from an apartment complex. pretty rough place. cops are there at least twice a month. and someones always gettin put in the backseat. i just carry the knife to keep jerks and crap brained lunatics away. never actually had to hurt anyone though. for that i'm glad. and the drunk WAS threatening to break his bear bottle over my head then stab me with it. i don't like talkin bout that part cause it scares my parents.
-------------------- Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change. The courage to change the things I cannot accept. And the wisdom to hide the bodies of all the people I had to kill today because they pissed me off.
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