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Omega
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Me: Who said it didn't exist?

Jeff: The study did

Jeff [earlier]: Actually, what the link says is that... racial profiling does not exist in the scale many media and political figures have said it had

Make up your mind, please.

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Malnurtured Snay
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[Smile] Oh, I'll try.

Racial Profiling doesn't exist as a vast conspiracy of police. If it exists at all, it does so on an invididual basis as the result of an officer's bias. Therefore, I stand by what I said: racial profiling, as detailed by Clinton, Bush, etc., doesn't exist.

Racial Profiling = The organized variety put forward by many people, doesn't exist.

racial profiling = the bias of one officer (notice lack of caps) does exist.

See?

[ April 16, 2002, 10:10: Message edited by: Malnurtured Snayer ]

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Ritten
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The interesting thing about racial profiling is that non-white officers do it also....
In news reports about the 'racial profiling' in Detroit a black guy was trying to sue the DPD for racial profiling him when he got pulled over, said he was just picked out of the line of cars at random....
His only problem was it was a lone black officer that got him, said he was speeding or some such thing, turned out he had a felony warrant for his arrest.....
It did happen in a lighter part of Detroit, so.....
If a [insert ethnic type] cop goes and does it to his/her own ethnic group, is it racial profiling, or a cops gut instinct???

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I remember seeing something on TV several years ago, about Cops in Fla. using this to catch people caring drugs out of Fla. It was very suscessesful, so they made them stop because so many of the people being stopped were black.

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There's no reason one cannot have a racist attitude towards ones own race.
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Ritten
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Thinking about it, shouldn't be Ethnic profiling.... or Species profiling...
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Racial, there is only one species on human being. There are several races. I am not a biology major or anything but I believe one of the factors of different species is their ability to mate with one another,as all humans can mate with one another we are all one species.

[ April 17, 2002, 07:13: Message edited by: Grokca ]

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Ritten
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Then we do not belong to the Human Race, but, Human Races......

Even on the census they ask about ethnic origin, not race.....

Main Entry: 3race
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, generation, from Old Italian razza
Date: 1580
1 : a breeding stock of animals
2 a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b : a
class or kind of people unified by community of interests, habits, or
characteristics

3 a : an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species; also :
a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group b :
BREED c : a division of mankind possessing traits that are transmissible by
descent and sufficient to characterize it as a distinct human type
4 obsolete : inherited temperament or disposition
5 : distinctive flavor, taste, or strength

Main Entry: 1eth�nic
Pronunciation: 'eth-nik
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin ethnicus, from Greek ethnikos
national, gentile, from ethnos nation, people; akin to Greek Ethos custom
-- more at SIB
Date: 15th century
1 : HEATHEN
2 a : of or relating to large groups of people classed according to common
racial, national, tribal, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin or background
b : being a member of an ethnic
group c : of, relating to, or characteristic of ethnics neighborhoods>


They seem quite close, mmmm, almost interchangable....

Definitions from http://www.m-w.com or Merriam-Webster Online

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The thing about the concept of race versus ethnicity is that its commonly accepted that race should only be used to refer to divisions between the three main, um, "races" (Causcoid, Negroid and Mongoloid, in un-PC-1960s-filmstripspeak, plus isolated groupings from Australia & Oceania we still don't know how to fit in) while ethnic divisions can be anything as tiny as British-descent Protestants and Irish-descent Catholics in Northern Ireland to Polynesians vs. Indians in Fiji.

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PsyLiam
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There's also the fact that saying "there is no human race, therefore anyone who says there is is wrong" is up there with "no, the millenium started in 2001, it did" in the List Of Things That Will Stop You Being Invited To Good Parties.

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Ritten
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People stopped asking me to parties when I quit drinking.....
So I have nothing to lose there.....

okay..... there is no 'human race'...... [Wink]

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Malnurtured Snay
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Yeah, but, it DID start in 2001 -- !!!

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Ritten
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Snayer, you don't get invited to 'good' parties either, mmm????

LOL

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PsyLiam
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Jeff used three exclamation points.

Ritten used four question marks and wrote "LOL".

I have won.

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Ritten
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I also used a lot of ....., so.......

Congrats!!!????LOL

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