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First of Two
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April 28 CBS Evening News story:
“The recent collapse of an enormous, 12,000-year-old Antarctic ice shelf, coupled with the warmest winter on record, is adding fuel to the debate over global warming.”
Terry Joyce, oceanographer: “We see temperatures rising. It’s most evident in the oceans, which is where the heat is stored.”
Pinkston: “Terry Joyce, a scientist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, studies the effects of global warming. He and other researchers are increasingly sounding a new alarm, a paradox, that global warming could produce an abrupt climate change and cooler temperatures, very soon.”
Joyce: “We could end up with a change that would occur within a decade and we would be in a different climate.”
Pinkston to Joyce: “A colder climate?”
Joyce confirmed: “A colder climate.”
Pinkston explained the theory: “The theory behind how global warming could lead to colder temperatures begins with the build-up of greenhouse gasses that are trapping heat in the atmosphere. This heat contributes to the melting of arctic icecaps and the evaporation of ocean water. The moisture returns to Earth as precipitation, rain and snow. But the addition of huge volumes of fresh water could disrupt the Atlantic Ocean conveyor system that brings warm currents from the southern tropics to the north.”

Urrgh.

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Cartman
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Either way (be it warming or cooling), continuing to dump gazillions of tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere can't be a Good Thing.

[ May 02, 2002, 15:23: Message edited by: Cartman ]

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Omega
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OK, everyone stop exhaling... [Wink]

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The_Tom
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Global Warming == Media-driven stupidspeak for Global Climate Change.

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Please, in the amount of time that we have been recording the climate is what 100 years maybe 200? Out of what? 5 billion?

The amount of rain I have been getting right now, (around 6-8 inches in the past couple of days) and still call this severe drought?

[Confused] [Confused] [Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

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First of Two
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Actually, exact measurements (useful for the most basic of predictions) have only been in use for about 50 years. We've only been able to predict/track hurricanes since the space age started. And back in the late 70's we were all getting ready for the next Ice Age, because that's what the doomniks were telling us then.

But it's an interesting self-correcting mechanism, isn't it?

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Either way (be it warming or cooling), continuing to dump gazillions of tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere can't be a Good Thing.
Wouldn't think so... but these folks at The Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Climate Change would seem to have varying opinions on the idea:

http://www.co2science.org/center.htm

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MinutiaeMan
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Can't reality be somewhere in the middle? I'm sure that part of the climate changes going on are natural... but they're probably still affected by all the gases we've pumped into the atmosphere in the past two centuries.

Whatever's going on, it's only being affected -- not controlled -- by pollution.

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Talk about freakish weather. Last week, we had snow.

Yes, snow.

At the end of April.

Around 10 cm.

Very annoying.

Thankfully, it's not snowing anymore and May is turning out as it should. [Big Grin]

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I have read a report in some doctors office magazine that said that this could be a thing that happens every few thousand years.... Time, Life, or some such...

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Malnurtured Snay
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You mean it DOESN'T snow in Canada 24/7?

Matrix, if you live on the East Coast (I'm in Md), then you'd know that the extent of the drought is such that the rainfall we've had hasn't been enough to get us up and running again. It's been nice, sure, but it ain't enough.

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David Templar
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quote:
Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay:
You mean it DOESN'T snow in Canada 24/7?

No, and it creates major problems for people when they have to purchase snow to build igloos with. Many Canadians either have to sell off their Huskies and slide to purchase snow to build igloo to shelter their family, or invest in "houses".

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Malnurtured Snay
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I was kidding, dude [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by David Templar:
quote:
Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay:
You mean it DOESN'T snow in Canada 24/7?

No, and it creates major problems for people when they have to purchase snow to build igloos with. Many Canadians either have to sell off their Huskies and slide to purchase snow to build igloo to shelter their family, or invest in "houses".
My God, that's terrible, how are you managing? [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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Here, in the glorious valley of the Elk, we thought winter was long behind us. Spring. Sun. Dry ground. Gardening.

It snowed last night.

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Malnurtured Snay
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LOL

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