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Malnurtured Snay
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... is Unconsitutional, CNN is reporting. The Supreme Court just ruled on it moments ago.

Don't get your panties in a bunch, The_Tom ... there's no link (yet) or I'd've posted it.

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Here we go.

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BWC, you lucky bastard!
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Malnurtured Snay
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Yay! We can still make Downs Jokes!
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Malnurtured Snay
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http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/06/20/scotus.executions/index.html
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It's only "cruel and unusual" because they're "unusual and retarded."
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Malnurtured Snay
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It's good to know someone is still his usual charming self.
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First of Two
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Well, this is good for the actually retarded, at least.

Just so long as "Me retarded" doesn't become the new "twinkie" defense.

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Even a retard isn't necessarily beyond comprehending what murder is.

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i think that being retarded should be a mitigating factor, but only if it can be shown that the individual is so under normal that they cannot understand what it was they did and why it was wrong. in other words, i think it should be approached in the same way that mental illness is approached.
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I think that the death penalty should be carried out on any individual if it is serious enough, like putting a bomb in a building or other crimes of that level.
Except for that, I agreee with EdipisReks.

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Sol System
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quote:
being retarded should be a mitigating factor...it should be approached in the same way that mental illness is approached
Maybe I'm missing something here...
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Ritten
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Yes, the space there, on the left side of the right... It then all equals out in the beginning....

retardation and a mental illness are different... like losing ones mind, which is a terrible thing to have..... as opposed to not having had said mind from the beginning.... and not being able to learn that you did not have said mind at any point in time....

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Sol System: Maybe I'm missing something here...
what's not to understand? for those who are mentally ill, it generally goes like this: if you are crazy, but sane enough that you understand what you did and can tell between right and wrong, you can stand trial and get whatever punishment deemed correct by the court if you are convicted. if you are so crazy you don't know what the fuck you did and you don't understand right and wrong then you go to a mental institution.

i think that if you are retarded but are smart enough to understand what you did, and you understand right and wrong, then you should be elligible for the death penalty if there is a death penalty in your state. if you are so retarded that you don't understand what you did, and you don't know right from wrong, then you shouldn't be elligible for the death penalty. got it straight, now? mental retardation has degrees just as mental illness has degrees. a blanket statement that ALL people who are mentally retarded, regardless of the degree of that mental retardation, should be spared makes no more sense than saying that ALL people who are mentally ill, to any degree, should not be responsible for their crime.

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The BWC: Except for that, I agreee with EdipisReks.
NOOOOOOOOOO!i must change my opinion, and fast!

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Ritten: Yes, the space there, on the left side of the right... It then all equals out in the beginning....

retardation and a mental illness are different... like losing ones mind, which is a terrible thing to have..... as opposed to not having had said mind from the beginning.... and not being able to learn that you did not have said mind at any point in time....

dude, i don't think you are going to have to worry about being executed.

[ June 20, 2002, 20:18: Message edited by: EdipisReks ]

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