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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
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Okay, here's a puzzle, one which I personally found difficult. Try and figure out what the next line of this series is. If people can't get the next line within a reasonable length of time, I'll post it again, with the next line, to make it easier to figure out.

1
11
21

PS If you've seen this problem before, let people try to figure it out first.

[ July 12, 2001: Message edited by: Jernau Morat Gurgeh ]



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"Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.
To hope's end I rode and to heart's breaking:
Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!"

The Battle of the Pelennor Fields.

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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
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Okay, I won't online again until tomorrow, so I'll give you more to go on.

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1211

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"Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.
To hope's end I rode and to heart's breaking:
Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!"

The Battle of the Pelennor Fields.


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The Red Admiral
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Hmm. I'll have a go, but I'm not at all sure if this is the right line of thought

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1211
11211

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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
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No, that's not it, Red Admiral. Here's the next line.

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1211
1231

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"Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.
To hope's end I rode and to heart's breaking:
Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!"

The Battle of the Pelennor Fields.


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The_Tom
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12341

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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
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Nope, I'm afraid not. BTW, I just realised what angle Red Admiral was taking. I'll just add that you can take any single line at face value and get the next by applying a rule.

[ July 13, 2001: Message edited by: Jernau Morat Gurgeh ]



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"Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.
To hope's end I rode and to heart's breaking:
Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!"

The Battle of the Pelennor Fields.

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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
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Time for the next line, I think.

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1211
1231
131221

I'm not sure if this helps, but this is a kind of 'lateral thinking' problem.

[ July 13, 2001: Message edited by: Jernau Morat Gurgeh ]



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"Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.
To hope's end I rode and to heart's breaking:
Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!"

The Battle of the Pelennor Fields.

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Omega
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Well, the next line's gonna be six digits, and have a four in it...

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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
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Nope, but don't be afraid to guess, lads, the worst that's going to happen is that you're going to be wrong. Here's the thing again, with the next line.

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1211
1231
131221
132231

The symmetry in the last line doesn't have any particular significance.

[ July 14, 2001: Message edited by: Jernau Morat Gurgeh ]



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"Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.
To hope's end I rode and to heart's breaking:
Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!"

The Battle of the Pelennor Fields.

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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
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I don't know if anyone is still trying this but here's the next line anyway:

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1211
1231
131221
132231
232221

I suppose I'd better give a clue, although this will probably give it away completely: Read each line out loud.

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"Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.
To hope's end I rode and to heart's breaking:
Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!"

The Battle of the Pelennor Fields.


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Aethelwer
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Ohhh!

134211?


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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
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Yep, well done Frank! I'll say no more, in case anyone else still wants to figure it out for themselves.

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"Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.
To hope's end I rode and to heart's breaking:
Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!"

The Battle of the Pelennor Fields.

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Doctor Jonas
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In case we want to puzzle the rest a little more, I'll go on from FrankG's last number.

14131231

Bad thing I didn't read this earlier because I got it in the minute you said "lateral thinking".


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TSN
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Oh, now I get it. And it gets rather interesting...

1
11
21
1211
1231
131221
132231
232221
134211
14131231
14231241
24132231
14233221
14233221
14233221
14233221
14233221
14233221
14233221
14233221
14233221
14233221
...ad infinitum...


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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
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Yes, I actually hadn't noticed that before.

There is also another similar type of series, where you write the numbers in the order that they appear, as opposed to counting up the number of occurances of each number and putting the highest first. It goes like this:

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11
21
1211
111221
312211
13112221
1113213211
31131211131221
13211311123113112211
11131221133112132113212221
3113112221232112111312211312113211
1321132132111213122112311311222113111221131221

As far as I know it just keeps going, with no number higher than 3 occurring.

[ July 18, 2001: Message edited by: Jernau Morat Gurgeh ]



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"Out of doubt, out of dark to the day's rising
I came singing in the sun, sword unsheathing.
To hope's end I rode and to heart's breaking:
Now for wrath, now for ruin and a red nightfall!"

The Battle of the Pelennor Fields.

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