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The Tellerites and the Andorians were really the only ones identified by name in "Journey to Babel" not to mention several others which were unnamed onscreen. We can also assume that not long after that episode the Coridans were admitted to the Federation, as well, so theres at least 3 identified for ya.
By TMP we see many more...Deltans (presumably) and a number in the screening room of the ent-nil [refit], so add those in and that at least that sums up the TOS alien members.
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No, the "Mirror Mirror" aliens were not UFP members. They were an independent world with which the Federation was negotiating for mining rights. (Can't recall for sure exactly what it was they wanted to mine...might've been dilithium.)
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After thinking about it more, this should be in the "Enterprise" section, due to where I was trying to go with it. I don't know how to move it so I started a new thread there.
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We should probably see some of these species on Enterprise in at least the next few seasons shouldn't we? (I think the Federation will be founded in the next 10 years Enterprise time)
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Personally, unless an actor not wearing any makeup is explicitly said to be an alien, I tend to count them as just being human, because a multiplicity of identical aliens bothers me on an aesthetic level. (This is is regards to all those people from "Journey to Babel.")
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Personally, unless an actor not wearing any makeup is explicitly said to be an alien, I tend to count them as just being human, because a multiplicity of identical aliens bothers me on an aesthetic level. (This is is regards to all those people from "Journey to Babel.")
Well, unfortunately, that's not what was intended by the TOS production staff. TOS (and, in some instances, the other series as well) is full of aliens that look exactly like humans.
It's almost a sure bet that those JtB extras were supposed to represent delegates from various UFP member worlds. IIRC it seemed as if the top Starfleet officers aboard the Enterprise (namely Kirk and company) were acting as Earth's representatives in the matter.
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There's no reason to assume that they are aliens, however, because there are plenty of people who were supposed to be humans over the course of the show who had no attention drawn to that fact. So they're just as likely to be one as the other. I also didn't get a vibe that Kirk had any role in the conference itself, other than taxi.
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So you are saying that all of the humans we saw in all of those "Earth parallel" stories and such, specifically: "miri", "piece of the action", "return of the archons", "patterns of force", "omega glory", "bread and circuses" -- were indeed humans, and not in fact, the result of a low budget responsible for a nearly 40 year old debate that really screwed up the scheme of things with regards to what we should and shouldn't be assuming is human??
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That isn't what I said. In the specific case of "Journey to Babel," there is little reason to assume that apparent humans aren't actual humans, since absolutely nothing is said about them. We know that the number of support staff onboard outweighed the number of actual delegates by a fair amount, so there's plenty of space for human aides to run around in. Uh, numerically speaking.
This is hardly a show-defining moment, anyway.
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