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Gvsualan
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I know this is nothing new...but:

http://www.cinecon.com/news.php?id=0304217

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With the disappointing numbers from "Star Trek: Nemesis," Paramount and producer Rick Berman must be scratching their heads trying to figure out how to proceed with another "Star Trek" film. But they're going to have to do so without Patrick Stewart. While "Nemesis" hinted that it would be the last "Star Trek" film to feature the "Next Generation" cast, Stewart confirmed today that he will no longer be a part of the "Star Trek" universe.

In an interview with Lisa Zlotnick, when asked about returning as Captain Picard, Stewart revealed, "I don�t think so. I think the Next Generation is over with. I�ve probably said goodbye to Piccard forever now."

Stay tuned for more from Patrick Stewart, as he gears up as Professor X in "X2: X-Men United."


...it is the most recent "news" (4/21) on the topic, and it does, at least, twist the spoon in our chests a little.... [Frown]

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Aban Rune
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Can't say I'm surprised. Though with...

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...Riker in command of the Titan now, they'd be wide open to do a movie with him at the center of the action. Problem with that would be that they'd have to set up an entire new cast and tell a movie story in an hour and a half...

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I suppose the Titan is a Sovereign-class as well? Big *phew* from the FX-dept, in that case.

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If there is another TNG film made, I highly doubt that it will feature the Titan. More likely, TPTB will just have Riker as captain of the Enterprise, with no real explanation as to why he isn't in command of the Titan anymore, just like how they didn't bother to give any explanation as to why Worf was back. Remember, they need the name dropping for ENT...

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I doubt they will do another TNG film, which is a shame, especially with all the unanswered questions remaining.

Is Worf still Federation Ambassador to the Klingon Empire, or has he returned to Starfleet?

Will Picard ever leave the Captain's Chair and accept promotion to the Admiralty?

Can that android ever replace Data?

Can the Enterprise-E go on a mission without being beaten up?

Will any member of the Enterprise crew (Riker excepted) ever get promoted/transferred?

Now all we will get is Romulan and Klingon wars to which we know the outcome.

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quote:
Originally posted by Phoenix:
I doubt they will do another TNG film, which is a shame, especially with all the unanswered questions remaining.

Is Worf still Federation Ambassador to the Klingon Empire, or has he returned to Starfleet?


Thought that was established in the movie...that being a diplomat didnt agree with him...

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I think that scene was cut. Worf told Beverly that during the wedding. Beverly also told Worf that she was going back to Starfleet Medical. But, like I said, this entire conversation was cut out.

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quote:
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I think that scene was cut. Worf told Beverly that during the wedding. Beverly also told Worf that she was going back to Starfleet Medical. But, like I said, this entire conversation was cut out.

Exactly.

And I find it highly unlikely that Worf would give up drinking blood wine and going targ hunting with the Klingon Chancellor to serve on the Enterprise again.

Firstly, if he had returned to Starfleet, he probably would have gone back to DS9, where he was when he became an Ambassador.

Secondly, if he really didn't like life as a diplomat, I think he would have asked Martok for a post in the Klingon military (in which he served during the Dominion War), probably as a General or some such high rank (he was Chancellor for 30 seconds after all).

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Well, I do remember someone mentioning that the next Star Trek film wouldn't focus on one cast, but rather on a mish-mash ... think about it.

Riker gets command of the Enterprise after the retirement/promotion of Picard. Obviously, he brings Troi.

So, what do we find?

Enterprise's only TNG staffers remaining are LaForge and Worf. With Data's death, it's reasonable to assume that either Worf or LaForge have been promoted to XO ... good cases can be made for both, but let's just say Worf is XO, and LaForge is still CEO.

So, we've got:

Riker - CO
Troi - Counselor
Worf - XO
LaForge - CEO

So, we need an Operations officer, an Medical officer, and a security officer.

Bring in Tuvok as security, Bashir as Medical, and Kim as Ops. Maybe, I dunno. I'd like to see more of a DS9 influence, myself.

The other option, of course, is that Worf remains as CSO, LaForge is XO. Nix Tuvok, and promote Barclay (or bring back O'Brien!) to CEO.

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Cut or not, a little Scotch tape and a lot of wishin' can easily make that canon, in which case too, it should probably be noted that the Enterprise-E doesnt have a first officer at the moment either, since that entire sequence was cut, yet everyone seems to accept the new guy despite his lack of appearance.


And I think Worfs heart would be on the Enterprise. His role aboard that ship was much more prominant than DS9, not to mention half the senior officer posts are currently open. Unless, of course, he was bequeathed the Defiant...besides, DS9 is now a Bajoran-Federation Starbase, Im sure it has changed leaps and bounds since the DS9 finale. As in, it is no longer on any sort of frontier as when it was established, not to mention the fact that there probably isnt really any regional threats either, as the Dominion is no more, Bajor is a butt-buddy, and Cardassia is the DS9 equivelent of what Iraq will be....

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RE: Snay

I cant see Tuvok on the Enterprise, he seems to be a guy that would go on being an adjuct to Janeway or he would go back to the Academy to teach...which would make sense if it were on 'Tactics of Delta Quad. Species 101' or something.

O'Brien is already teaching at SFA.

Bashir would be a good choice, however, I am not sure how he would mesh with the Enterprise crew.

But really, do we need that many cast members in the next movie? I think too many cooks in the kitchen spoil the dinner, and too many cast members in a movie spoils a movie, as the attention to individuals always seems to unequally balanced. It always seemed that Checkov, Sulu, Scott, and Uhura got a good share of screen time despite the attention directed at Mccoy, Spock and Kirk.

In NEmesis, Worf played a negligable role, so did Crusher (again) and LaForge. Riker and Troi had a step more but again Picard and Data hogged screentime to a higher degree much higher than the TOS trio.

Even if the next movie was a DS9/TNG crossover...they could just stick with LaForge, Riker, Troi and Worf...(minus Crusher optional) and have a thought provoking resurrection of Captain Sisko, bring back Bashir, O'Brien and Jake Sisko for that and there is already more than enough players for a new movie....

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I think it's probably a given that by the point of Nemesis ... what, four years after the end of the Dominion War? That Bajor has entered the Federation, and that Deep Space Nine is now a Federation owned AND operated starbase. I think the Defiant has most likely been reassigned.

The same logic that allows Riker to return to command Enterprise (which, BTW, I like) can allow for the transfer/death of the ship's current XO. Personally, I'd love to see Geordi as XO! Hey -- did anyone notice Worf's department color? I didn't see Nemesis in theaters (waiting for DVD), and I was curious if Worf was still a red collar, or if he'd gone back to gold.

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I wanna say red...but I havent seen it in a week or so...so I could just be having selective recall too...as it seems Worf can just leave and rejoin SF on a whim without losing his place... [Wink]

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The new DS9 relaunch novels say that the Defiant is still at DS9, mainly exploring the Gamma Quadrant, which it couldn't really do before because of the Dominion.

And I am pretty sure Worf was still red.

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I can't see the Defiant out exploring the Gamma Quadrant and being any sort of use. Fandom books aside, its a warship and it was used in DS9 for escorts, covert ops and battle...I certainly cannot believe that it is equipt for doing planetary surveys and anomaly charting. They would save that work for the big boys...or for that matter probably haul all of the old Oberths out of the mothballs (considering the shape of the fleet at the time) long before deeming it necessary to use a warship for such 'menial' work.
The best options for Defiants would probably be something more along the lines of border patols on the remaining galactic 'hotspots'...or posting them at based on their outer rim as a primary line of defense against outside invaders or threats, such as it was used during DS9.

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