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Hmmm, we've passed the thousand member mark by quite a wide margin haven't we. I should pay attention around here more.
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1) Decker + V'Ger = 2273-78 or so. Borg = scourge of the galaxy since time immemorable, but at least a millennium prior to ST:TMP. If the newborn Borg could time travel extensively, then why don't the Borg we know regularly do so?
2) Decker was supposed to give V'Ger a goal in life, a set of emotions and ambitions. The Borg seem to lack such a goal, beyond "wanting to become perfect". The Borg suppress emotions, V'Ger yearned for those.
3) V'Ger biotech was way more advanced than that of the Borg. Its Drones looked way better. V'Ger assimilation tech also far outperformed that of the Borg. The merging of man and machine seemed to lead to a "spiritual" form of existence, not to a clumsy cyborg.
So the Borg are a causality nightmare if they are supposed to have been sired by V'Ger... And it's basically equally difficult to argue for the "Voyager 6 + Borg = V'Ger" theory, without evoking lots of time travel and nonlinear advancement.
Saltah'na
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Actually, it has been speculated by Gene Roddenberry himself that Voyager 6 met the Borg first. The Borg probably gave it some nifty upgrades, then sent it on its way back home.
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"Nifty upgrades". That was mighty generous of them! Kind of like those benevolently pedantic people that clean other people's desks when they're not looking or do the dishes when they're at a party. The same people that, if computer-savvy, Defrags and Scandisks your computer while you're in the bathroom.
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...And then proceed to overclock your CPU and then run AdAware and then tweak your OS services and install the newest drivers and then delete your pr0n collection and then reconfigure your firewall and then update your virusscanner and then reformat your other harddrive and then download MSN v666 and then increase your display resolution and then CHANGE YOUR DESKTOP BACKGROUND DAMMIT!
Oh, how I hate those people.
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Then stop using 800 x 600 and join the real world.
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Yah... I think after Voyager and Enterprise... we've got enough going on with "How the Borg became aware of Humanity" without throwing V'ger into the mix. And, as has been pointed out already, V'ger certainly couldn't have sired the Borg. They're way older than that.
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Why would the Borg have even bothered with Voyager 6? The collective's not notable for its benevolence, and given the probe's tech level, it would have been about as useful to a starfaring civilization as training wheels on a fish.
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quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: V'Ger could've kicked any cube's ass.
Mark
I agree... V'Ger would have just zapped it up into its data-banks. V'Ger had learnt all there is to know - the only thing it was lacking was the 'human element' to go beyond the bounds of the universe... sounds like a proto-Q thing to me.
EDIT: Andrew, I think you were looking to make it like this, no? -Tahna
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V'Ger assimilation tech also far outperformed that of the Borg. The merging of man and machine seemed to lead to a "spiritual" form of existence, not to a clumsy cyborg.
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