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Hobbes
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I've read a lot comments by fans saying John Eaves ripped off the Akira. But Eaves didn't design the ship, Doug Drexler did. After reading this I wrote to him asking him about the design, and here's his response...

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Hi Hobbes!

It was a conscious decision on the part of the producers (You did not hear it from me). They were aware that the fans really liked the Akira. They did not want a secondary hull and liked the P-38 Lightning approach of a "forked tail". I recoiled at first but ended up liking it very much. It's significantly it's own ship. Seriously, every ship except the Defiant has been a direct variation of the original Enterprise. What I really love about NX1 is that from many angles it looks very much like the original. That's what was most important to me.

However, what do I know? I happen to like the title sequence and the music. Shows you how stupid I am, eh? Whew! Many fans are mean spirited!

Doug


Just thought I'd share that.

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Malnurtured Snay
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I think everyone pretty much new they designed the ship because everyone liked the Akira-Class so much.

That still doesn't make it a continuity error.

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Good to hear from Drexler. It's always great when we can get stuff from the horse's mouth. One wonders what exactly Mr. Eaves has been up to, though... he wasn't listed in the Broken Bow credits, interestingly enough.

One little quibble, Soundwave.. when Doug says "you didn't hear this from me," isn't that usually a sign that it isn't to be stuck up for all to read?

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Hobbes
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LOL. Guess I'll find out the next time I ask him a question and he answers it or not.

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You should tell him we all said thank you, at any rate.
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Dukhat
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Oh, and Hobbes...next time you talk to Drexler, could you PLEASE ask him about those DS9 tech manual kitbashes? Specifically, if he made them up himself, or if he actually based all of them on unseen models that the VFX people bashed together (as Okuda hinted at).

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Someone posted this at another board:

Although I think they put the wrong movie, the ship still looks like one I've seen before Enterprise came out.

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Malnurtured Snay
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The wrong movie ... ? What, you think it was in Generations?

I can see as much difference between those two ships as I can between the Constitution- and Ambassador-Classes.

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David Templar
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I think they look eerily alike. Too much so.

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No but there are 8 other movies.

And the only real difference in them that I see is the nacelles are flipped over.

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If I had to design the ship and had to go for an soft akira look,

Heres two changes off the top of my head i would do.

First make the support pylons connecting the enteprise's nacelles look like the ones on the constitution.
[not really my idea from the start]

Then, instead of that weird indent in the front of the suacer where they stuck that odd oval shaped deflector, i would make the suacer all round[all complete that is], then
i would make the gold deflector all roundish, [like the original constitution]
and hang it off the bottom of the suacer from an attactment like an radar dish, only upside down.

How does that sound to everyone?

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Wes
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sounds ugly. hehe... anyway. I love the akira and i love enterprise. nyah
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quote:
Originally posted by TheF0rce:
First make the support pylons connecting the enteprise's nacelles look like the ones on the constitution.

That's not a bad idea, but I don't think having swept nacelles is all that much of a heresy.

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Originally posted by TheF0rce:
Then, instead of that weird indent in the front of the suacer where they stuck that odd oval shaped deflector, i would make the suacer all round[all complete that is], then
i would make the gold deflector all roundish, [like the original constitution]
and hang it off the bottom of the suacer from an attactment like an radar dish, only upside down.

While that's a possibility, I think it would make the ship look sort of out of balance... "front-heavy." As it is, she seems to be on the border, not having a secondary hull. Another possibility would be to have the deflector built into the bottom of the saucer. Take the Intrepid auxiliary deflector, flip it to the underside, and add a gold dish.

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I don't think Enterprise is that bad. I actually like it. The Akira must of had some kind of design lineage somewhere.

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Seriously, every ship except the Defiant has been a direct variation of the original Enterprise.

Apparently he forgot all about ships like the Steamrunner, Norway, Centaur and even the Oberth. All four I might add look nothing like the original Enterprise. Oh well. It doesn't matter.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ryan McReynolds:

While that's a possibility, I think it would make the ship look sort of out of balance... "front-heavy." As it is, she seems to be on the border, not having a secondary hull. Another possibility would be to have the deflector built into the bottom of the saucer. Take the Intrepid auxiliary deflector, flip it to the underside, and add a gold dish.


Actualy i intended to hang the deflector dish off the center of the bottom side of the suacer....
I think one of those non canon designs the "hermes" or something have this design.

It also would kinda make the enterprise look like todays futuristic NASA stuff where probes and space stations have radars and solar grids hanging off in every which direction instead of everything being built neatly into the contours of the hull and fits just right concept...hehehehehe.


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