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Well I get the impression that what is called Warp in this verse would be called Quantum Slipstream or Transwarp in the Prime Universe. That's the only way we can justify the short trips between far-flung areas. Warp speed travel in this universe doesn't even remotely look like warp travel in other Star Trek film or show.
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I agree. I think it's also a small but pointed example of the "everything now no pauses action action action" mentality of this universe.
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I thought they were just useing NUBSG FTL drives now instead of Warp.... Hmmm...I wonder if Star Wars will get even more crazy fast now...and of course, larger.
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quote:I don’t know. I think it’s nice that in this day and age, a white male can still be cast as an Indian played by a Mexican. White men really have come a long way!
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quote:Originally posted by Mars Needs Women: Yeah, I swear that Newton type has registry of NCC-071/B, even though its probably 0718, but that 1 looks funny.
I watched the movie yesterday and the number was not better to read as in the trailer. I don't think that there is a '/' in it. It is pretty clear even in the picture of the trailer that the line is more or less in parallel to the last digit (more like '|'. So I assume that it is NCC-0718. But the name of that ship is not readable.
Since the android/cyborg crewmember is referred to in the credits as "Science Officer 0718," that's probably the registry of the ship too. It's probably named after one of Abrams's relatives, since the Kelvin was named after his grandfather.
quote:Originally posted by o2: I noticed the ships on the desk as well. I wondered why the top secrete dreadnought ship was displayed on the desk in the open for everybody to see. And I wondered why the Kelvin class was on display and not the flagship of the fleet, the Enterprise. Did anybody noticed the regristry on the hull of Kelvin-class? Cool was the NX-01-Class (The Enterprise?).
The gallary of prob ships is great, but I can't recall seeing the V2 Rocket. I would even consider this as very bad taate of the set decorator/of the director to display such an instrument of mass destruction in this line of ships! On the other hand, there is at least one model in the movie that was not on that page: A model of the Ares V launch vehicle (in our world this has been replaced in the meantime by the Space Launch System).
Regaring that 'red' ship: I haven't seen it myself in the movie (or on any other picture available to me) but I had to think of the the book 'Star Trek: The Art of the Film' (page 59) where you can find a picture of a red Armstrong-type ship, the USS Excelisor.
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"Well I get the impression that what is called Warp in this verse would be called Quantum Slipstream or Transwarp in the Prime Universe. That's the only way we can justify the short trips between far-flung areas. Warp speed travel in this universe doesn't even remotely look like warp travel in other Star Trek film or show."
I dunno ... the warp effect of the TOS movies (the rainbow effect) doesn't look like it did in TOS or TNG/DS9/VOY, but we all think that's "our" warp; and was the trip from the border of the Klingon Neutral Zone to Earth really take any longer than the trip from the Romulan Neutral Zone to Earth in First Contact?
quote:Originally posted by o2: The gallary of prob ships is great, but I can't recall seeing the V2 Rocket. I would even consider this as very bad taate of the set decorator/of the director to display such an instrument of mass destruction in this line of ships!
The V-2 was the first manmade object ever to escape Earth's atmosphere and enter space, and was the forerunner of all modern rockets. And of course, Marcus' prized Vengeance is an instrument of even greater mass destruction.
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Sweet! I think I'll order the ring ship and the Phoenix.
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quote:The V-2 was the first manmade object ever to escape Earth's atmosphere and enter space, and was the forerunner of all modern rockets.
Yes. A pity studious Marcus didn't also have a model of the first mass-produced compact military car, the Kübelwagen. And perhaps also a commemorative minireplica of the first successful true Submachinegun, the MP40? Think that might brighten up his desk there.
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quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: I dunno ... the warp effect of the TOS movies (the rainbow effect) doesn't look like it did in TOS or TNG/DS9/VOY, but we all think that's "our" warp; and was the trip from the border of the Klingon Neutral Zone to Earth really take any longer than the trip from the Romulan Neutral Zone to Earth in First Contact?
True, but you can fudge that one a bit. Although I can't remember... had the battle already started before the Enterprise-E headed for Earth?
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quote:The V-2 was the first manmade object ever to escape Earth's atmosphere and enter space, and was the forerunner of all modern rockets.
Yes. A pity studious Marcus didn't also have a model of the first mass-produced compact military car, the Kübelwagen. And perhaps also a commemorative minireplica of the first successful true Submachinegun, the MP40? Think that might brighten up his desk there.
Well, uh, neither of those things had anything whatsoever to do with the history of flight or space travel. The V-2 rocket was a hugely significant technological milestone on that front, and directly led to the rockets used to take humans into space. To not understand why it's there is pretty obtuse IMO.
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Well, the MP40 might have been used to keep the slave labor camps in line...the ones Von Braun had making those V2 rockets. No was to link the car in without going all "Kevin Bacon Game" on it.
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Regarding that 'red' ship: I haven't seen it myself in the movie (or on any other picture available to me) but I had to think of the the book 'Star Trek: The Art of the Film' (page 59) where you can find a picture of a red Armstrong-type ship, the USS Excelsior.
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It's probably the Excelsior. They might have made the model for the first movie but didn't use it until this one.
Cool, I haven't noticed that ship before in this shot. Your assumption sounds reasonable, but we can never be sure since the ship is to far away for identification...
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Also, I was wrong about the Newton-type with new nacelles. The nacelles are the same, they just glow blue now instead of the original red.
Where is this 'red' comming from? I found no reference of red glowing bussard collectors in any picutre of the first Star Trek movie. Indeed there is no other good picture of a Newton-type ship from that angle available. Mayby the bussard colectors are supposed to be blue? By the way, I think this ship is the NCC-0718 as well. The only other ship (also a Newton-tpye) was not docked to the space station when the Enterprise departed.
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