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colin
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Betans refer to the inhabitants of Beta 3, Star System C-111. This planet is in "Return of the Archons".

The reason that I ask the question is that there appear to be similarities in the civilizations of the two planets. And there is one major difference-the Betans didn't have space travel.

So, do you think the Borg are like the Betans? And do you think that there is a theme in how these civilizations interfaced with humans?


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Sol System
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Uh, no. I think drawing a parallel between Landru and the Borg is like building a suspension bridge out of saltwater taffy.
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Mmm, taffy...
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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Saltwater taffy, no less. DEEEEEEEEEE-LISH!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sol System
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I didn't mean to drown out your thread in a flood of sugary confections, targetemployee.
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Mmm, confection...
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Lee
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WTF is saltwater taffy? Sounds like some grizzled old Cajun singer. . .

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Lee: Must be a US thing, 'cause I've never heard of it, either.

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I've never understood what the US word 'taffy' was... it sounded like TOFFEE... as in toffee apples.

There was that Lisa Loeb song "Pulling Taffy" that just seemed to make the word more confusing.

I'm gathering if you can 'pull taffy' - and that it's a sweet confectionery... that it must be something like either, fairy-floss, 'toffee', or even like the 'candy' that is the hard sweet lollies that are those 'old fashioned' hard-boiled lollies... usually multi-coloured.

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Sol System
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Taffy is a soft, chewy sort of candy. I'm not exactly well versed in taffy lore, but the saltwater bit comes from the fact that there is salt in it, and it is most often associated with piers and other beachfront sorts of places.

Here is a recipe.

To prepare taffy, you have to stretch, or pull it. A lot.


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Leaving the taffy-related subjects and actually trying to answer TE's question (which I'm sure he's more than happy about):

I always envisioned the original Borg race as being isolated from the rest of the galaxy as well. Instead of making contact with other species (or even being aware of their existence), they ended up becoming slaves to their own technology to the point where they couldn't exist without it. Very similar to the Cybermen of Doctor Who, the technology became a part of them, and as other forms of flora & fauna life died out on their world, they "adapted" to life without it. But since you can only go on like this for so long on your own planet, they realized the need for expansion into space. And coincidentally, instead of having to rely on their own technology, they now had to survive by assimilating someone else's.

That's my theory.

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Not a half-bad one, either.

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Apparently, the word "toffee" is derived from the word "taffy". I think the difference is that taffy is soft and toffee is hard. That's what I gather from the dictionary definition, anyway. I know what taffy is, but I'm not sure about toffee.
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*smacks Tim hard*
Americentric Bastard!

Taffy is an American bastardization of Toffee. It refers specifically to the softer, stickier, saltwaterier species of the genus Toffeeae.

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Mikey T
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What book did you get this out of Tom?

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