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Theyve switched conn and ops before.. for Encounter at Farpoint and The Naked Now it was the opposite of what it would be for the rest of the series. And it doesnt seem to have to be a fleetwide thing.. some ships dont even have the stations next to each other anymore (Defiant, Intrepids)
And its not a job limited to uniform color if you are not the primary officer assigned to that.. Data wore yellow which is specified to be operations division color, but at other times other personnel have filled it (most notably Sam LaVelle, who was promoted to the third shift ops position but wore his red uniform because he was on a command career track).
There are a lot of variables here to deal with. We have to look at who was getting the flight control orders in insurrection. Geordi was formerly a flight control officer, so ghe could have been filling his old job, but then again he could have just been most qualified ops officer in Data's absence. Or Perim could be ops and just on a command career track so she didnt wear yellow.
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The thing w/ "Lower Decks" is that those ensigns were gunning for promotion. So, basically, they were switching off to different stations, so Riker could see how well they handled them, and see where they ought ot be assigned. A normal ops officer wouldn't wear red. It was just a special occasion.
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Well this gets back into the color argument. Like why Shelby was in Tactical but wore red, or why Spock switched from command gold to science blue or a dozen other cases of color differences. Enough that there could be a case made for the fact that even though an officer serves in a position, there could be a different color worn depending on the career track in question. It all depends on the individual officer.
If you arent sure of that one, then it probably is just that they switched conn and ops (not the end of the world.. they pulled that one in TNG like i said and no one said anything.. conn and ops arent fixed in stone)
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quote: then it probably is just that they switched conn and ops (not the end of the world.. they pulled that one in TNG like i said and no one said anything.. conn and ops arent fixed in stone)
I really don't like the idea of this at all. The swap in The first two TNG episode were just teething problems. The producers are the first people to say in as many words "we have to dumb the movies down for the non-fans and the casual viewers". Well, if they go swapping Ops and Conn - then they are REALLY fucking screwing with those types of people. And, is it just me - was the Scenes on the Enterprise in Insurrection just terribly... mundane, and washed out of colour. The scene on the bridge - during the fight - were so... NARROW - i.e. we never got the scope of the bridge - plus it seemed so lifeless and pale - too brightly lit or something - not like the wonderful lighting that was used in First Contact - the bridge/Ready Room/Obs Lounge, corridors (before borgafied) etc in FC were supburb very rich, deep and lush. The ship scenes in Insurrection were just pallid. They were HORRIBLE. Even the effects sucked - the Enterprise looked horrible - it looked very... murky. UGH.
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How could the "casual viewers" be confused by a switching of conn and ops? I wouldn't think they would even pay much attention. They would just know that the helm station is where the person is getting orders to steer the ship, and the ops station is where Data's sitting.
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"Having Geordi at one of those positions - was well confusing to even us... stupid."
No, it was confusing to us because we know Geordi doesn't normally sit there. Most people would not have noticed.
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I really doubt that the average fan has made a huge effort to remember the colour-coding of every seat on the bridge. And in any case, it's not like the department colour on the FC uniforms jumps out at you anyway.
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I realise that that looked like I called TSN stupid - I didn't mean that - I was calling the ST:IX people's decision "stupid"! Hope that didn't confuse anyone!
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