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The episode all revolves around Hoshi recieving a ChiaGrow your own Tholian for christmas.....
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"the big floating diamond thing wasnt as bad as the squat stocky diamond-men with stubby arms and legs that DC comics featured.."
Well, I just meant that I don't like the "crystal-people" theory. I prefer the "Loskene was wearing a helmet or something" theory.
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Sorry, that came out wrong. I'm glad that they're avoiding the continuity error with the Romulans.
What I was trying to say is that in that particular episode, the Romulans seriously lacked any menace because we didn't see them personally. IMO, anyway. And that having ANOTHER faceless alien menace would be kind of boring.
The whole point of conflict is supposed to be personal conflict, personal drama. About the only faceless menace I really like is B5's Shadows, and that's because their ships are so damn creepy.
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Isn't the whole point with the Romulans that everyone knows who they are, and what will happen, and what that means? I mean, it seems everyone complains about continuity, but here's the perfect example of using past stories/future events to create dramatic tension.
Speaking for myself, anyway, I rather enjoyed the contrast between how the crew reacted to these to-them-new aliens and what I knew of them. Not to mention T'Pol calmly freaking out.
I guess what I'm saying is that the Romulans are enough of an icon to not really need anything in the way of introduction other than their name.
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Yes, as far as drama goes, I thought that the handling of the Romulans in "Minefield" was quite decent. I liked the way they were kept mysterious, with T'Pol keeping her mouth shut about the whole thing and them lurking about in the darkness through the whole episode.
My only complaint is that I think they should have been introduced way back in "Silent Enemy." It would have been perfect! Instead, it was just some species-of-the-week which we'll probably never see again.
But I agree that going the same route with the Tholians would be a mistake. As Sol pointed out, the Romulans are already well known to us, but the Tholians are still an enigma, even after three decades of hintings and bits of background. I think it's time to finally unveil the secret.
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quote:Originally posted by Siegfried: Even if the characters are CGI, there would still be a voice credit, at least.
Actually, not necessarily. Voiceovers are quite often uncredited, so frequently, in fact, that I suspect there're no union rules that require credit.
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After all, if James Earl Jones can end up not being credited on the original version of Star Wars, then anything's possible.
Voice actors are generally treated like shit in Hollywood anyway.
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: After all, if James Earl Jones can end up not being credited on the original version of Star Wars, then anything's possible.
Actually, I think that George Lucas made a special arrangement with James Earl Jones to keep the voice secret... for whatever reason. I would suspect that there was some kind of voluntary agreement that the actor made, before it was made final.
I remember for certain that Roxann Dawson was credited for her role as the computer voice in "Dead Stop."
I also remember that in "Babylon 5," Ed Wasser (Morden) had his credits left until the end of the hour in some of the second and third season episodes -- because JMS wanted to keep Morden's appearance in the episode a surprise whenever he popped up. Ed Wasser agreed to it... otherwise it wouldn't have been done.
As for voice actors in general -- well, I can't say for certain. But from the examples I cited above, I'm sure there are some rules, at least.
Hell, it could be as simple as the fact that the voice actors for the Tholians haven't been cast yet, because that part would be done in post-production!
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The credit could be voluntary in some cases. After all, in cartoons where actors are actually credited for playing parts, they're often not credited for every single one line person they might be.
Keeping actors names off the opening credits is tricky. They managed to do it with whatzername in "Heart of Stone", but she was only in it for 5 minutes.
And on the flip side, Whatzername was credited as "anna" in the post-opening credits on Shadow Dancing, even though that was suppossed to be a surprise.
And did the guy who played Launchpad on Ducktales ever get credited for saying "These aren't the droids we're looking for"? DID HE?!
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(Bracketed stuff not actually being in the credits.)
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I don't know which version of the show you watched, but I specifically recall seeing her name listed in the closing credits of that episode. I looked.
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