quote: At least for me I'm settleing on the FACT that the entire concept of a "NX-01 UNIVERSE" is a alternate reality. NOT the NORMAL QUANTUM REALITYwe tend to think of when regarding TREK.
That's about the only thing left now. I've seen some arguments about how easy it is to lose data over 200 years, but I can't believe that this could be lost information, Picard would have to know about the Borg before their fist encounter.
quote: since when does the NX-01 have "photon" looking(and sounding) torpedoes and linear phaser arrays?
I think it was just the f/x of the torpedoes. They hooked up what I believe they are calling "Phase Cannons" earlier in the season.
I liked the episode, but it leaves far to much information about the Borg around for it to go away. With the events of "First Contact", and "Regeneration" giving Phlox a close look at Borg Nano Probes, Plus they still could have pieces of a Borgified ship to study.
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quote:Originally posted by Warbadden Hawkins: the guns only have two settings and maclom says use "high-est" setting
Why didn't the E-E sensors pick up MASSIVE SPHERE CHUNKS, I mean what the heck that hull piece was at least 100ft tall!!
Actually the quote was more like "set them to maximum". 'Stun' wasn't working..so 'kill' was obviously the "maximum" setting he was referring to...
...Considering it is the Arctic...and not to mention the fact the E-E sensors were down, the sphere hull could have easily been buried under snow and became exposed following shifts in the ice or from global warming..who knows...either way, Voyager was under quite a bit of ice after 15 year following its crash landing in "Timeless".
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Well, in addition to those ship bits, there are now two more Borg floating around somewere in interstellar space along with the handful in orbit around the Earth.
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Wouldn't those Borg been vaporized by Worf long before they got into Earths orbit...and any of the remains would have been futher burned up by the atmosphere....??
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Considering that there are currently thousands on Near Earth Objects zipping around the earth at thousands of miles per hour and by Cochrane's time it's likely that there would be millions more, No, I don't think a Drone in orbit would have survived intact (or even in large-ish chunks) in an erratic orbit (at best) for more than a few days tops.
Remember all the Earch junk floating around undiscovered even into TNG's era and you'll see why nobody finding a couple of depressurized drones from this episode makes sense.
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But there was no "depressurized drones from this episode" in orbit of or from Earth, they were quite a ways from Earth when the were blown out of the Enterprise.
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But then, no one had found that space probe that the KBOP blows away in STV or that vessel containing those cryogenically preserved people from The Neutral Zone. Or Kahn's "sleeper ship" from Space Seed. ...or even several lost starships that had vanished for hundreds of years (several episodes in this area)....and that's just the human debris! Don't forget the K'Tinga choc full of sleeping Klingons that nobody had noticed for almost a whole century.
Imagine all the bits of destroyed ships from the Federation and Klingon's various wars with other cultures and each other.
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quote:Originally posted by Mucus: Well, in addition to those ship bits, there are now two more Borg floating around somewere in interstellar space along with the handful in orbit around the Earth.
Although I'm sure that anything in Earth Orbit would be disintegrated in the atmosphere soon after being cut free by Worf (or whoever). It takes serious planning and adjustments to maintain a stable orbit and those Drones that were lost were hardly in a position to make any adjustments.
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The FC drones were at least 40.000 kilometers up... it would take centuries for their orbit to decay, assuming Worf didn't tractor them back in for the annual 2373 freakshow...
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Why would the FC drones be so high up? Earth didn't look all that small in the background when the heroes jettisoned the deflector. And the E-E certainly wasn't on a geostationary orbit, as there were even *verbal references* to it moving in relation to Earth.
(And "forward", bow first, for that matter, if the establishing shots are any indication. So even disregarding the size of Earth on the background, the orbit would be lower than stationary, not higher - I can't believe the ship would be orbiting stern first even if its relative motion resulted in the bow moving "forward" wrt the ground.)
quote:Originally posted by Cartmaniac: The FC drones were at least 40.000 kilometers up... it would take centuries for their orbit to decay, assuming Worf didn't tractor them back in for the annual 2373 freakshow...
They went flying off in uncontrolled trajectories. Their orbit would have decayed far faster than a anything placed there on purpose. Even if they were 40,000 klicks up they would have entered a slow decaying orbit almost immeadately. Besides, just because the Enterprise blew it regarding the Sphere's wreckage does'nt mean that they could'nt have cleaned up their local area of debris and a few stray drones (and given Hawk a funeral). There's a lot that had to happen between the Queen's death and the Enterprise's departure: somehow getting back all those lifeboats for starters.
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Yeah, and most likely assisting the Phoenix and its crew back to Earth.
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