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And to go back to the point of the thread, I'm with Simon. Star Trek: Enterprise just sounds...wrong. It's too close to the often heard "Starship Enterprise". Everyone knows that the Enterprise is the main ship from Star Trek. This was about the first Enterprise, the Enterprise before Star Trek happened. Hence: Enterprise.
Or something like that.
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It all goes back to the 'retooling' idea. Don't fix what ain't broke. Enterprise season 1 and 2 were just fine. Do Berman, Braga and the Viacom suits think that more people are going to watch because of a few commandoes or an addition of 'Star Trek'.
It's not the casual viewers not watching - it's the fans too.
Stargate, (formerly Buffy) and Angel I get more excited about watching during the week - than Enterprise.
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Sure, they believe that. But ENT really did have problems (and continues to, because the aspects that are being retooled aren't the ones that should be retooled, but there you go).
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Yup. The show isn't awful, but it's a long way from perfect, and changing the theme tune and the name isn't going to affect the overall quality of the show one way or the other.
And meanwhile, the fans spend more time complaining that the writers forgot a single line said by someone on TNG over 10 years ago that has caused a Minor Continuity Violation, than they are with getting good stories. "Show us the Romulans! We don't care that we can't see their faces and that severely limits the drama we can get out of them! We want to see them! Oh no, you've shown them! Now I will complain about continuity! Was it a good episode? Who cares, they had a cloak. I'm complaining right now."
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Well we can have the Romulan wars without us SEEING it - having the Earth Romulan War happening while the NX is out exploring or busy or too far out while slower starships are dealing with the 'problem'. Then they finally reach home and find out there's been this big-arsed war.
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quote:They were - as per Voyager season 4 and DS9 season 3, Berman and the suits believe retooling saves the show. Just let it be.
DS9 was retooled twice - adding the Defiant in season 3, and Worf in season 4.
And to be honest, I enjoyed both "retoolings." As a character, Worf fit in better on DS9 than he ever did in TNG -- truth be told, I never cared much for Worf when he was on TNG. When he was on DS9, he really grew and became enjoyable.
My biggest gripe with the Defiant was with episodes which took place almost entirely on that ship and neglected DS9 all together. The problem is that many of those episodes were very GOOD - "The Sound of Her Voice", "To the Death", "The Adversary" ...
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the addition of the Defiant was a retooling, but the later addition of Worf and then the change in story structure to the war arcs just kind of struck me more as a natural evolution of the show.. basically, its not like they came in and cut the creators off at the balls, more like the creators found a better direction than the show had originally been heading in..
that being said of DS9, i think its a damn shame that ENT wasnt allowed to grow into what it was becoming, season 2 is when the show found me as a fan and all of the progress that was made was abrubtly cut off, in light of this hybrid space marine/post 9-11 vengeance show that it has been retooled into.
but you know what?.. its now better than Voyager ever was, thankfully.. and ENT s3, despite not being the s2 that i grew fond of, it still has me as a fan, which is what s1 wasnt able to do..
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quote:Originally posted by CaptainMike20X6: the later addition of Worf and then the change in story structure to the war arcs just kind of struck me more as a natural evolution of the show.. basically, its not like they came in and cut the creators off at the balls, more like the creators found a better direction than the show had originally been heading in..
Well, not really. Behr and co said themselves that the addition of Worf forced them to reevaluate season 4. They were planning doing the war with the Dominion much sooner, but had to change that to war with the Klingons in order to make Worf's introduction make a bit more sense.
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Well, no, they were going to have a six-month war, then the President of the Federation was going to fly in to DS9 on a runabaout and announce the war was over. You'd then have two and a half years of bungled rebuilding efforts on Cardassia Prime, hindered by rogue elements of the Jem'Hadar. 8)
quote:Originally posted by Lee: Well, no, they were going to have a six-month war, then the President of the Federation was going to fly in to DS9 on a runabaout and announce the war was over. You'd then have two and a half years of bungled rebuilding efforts on Cardassia Prime, hindered by rogue elements of the Jem'Hadar. 8)
That would've been interesting. One thing that I dislike about television is the lack of aftermath.
Rebuilding would fit very nicely into the mythos of DS9. The parallel between Cardassia and Bajor could've been played up more. Sisko's role as a builder also could've been played up a bit.
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Well we can have the Romulan wars without us SEEING it - having the Earth Romulan War happening while the NX is out exploring or busy or too far out while slower starships are dealing with the 'problem'. Then they finally reach home and find out there's been this big-arsed war.
You mean like Voyager?
Besides, considering that the NX-01 got recalled after the Xindi attack, that theory ain't worth much, IMO.
I just pray that if they DO bring in the Romulan War, they don't twist it into part of this damn Temporal Cold War.
quote:Originally posted by Middy Seafort: That would've been interesting. One thing that I dislike about television is the lack of aftermath.
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