Have at it, boys.

The other problem is that speeds in TNG and DS9 are much higher than they should be in the 22nd century. Warp 4.5 is 91 c, whereas warp 9 on the TNG scale is 1516 c. That's like having a ocean liner moving at the speed of a jet airliner. Four days at warp 9 is still only 17 light years, which is still pretty close.

It seems that this will be the era where there is more organized and ordered exploration of the universe.

If it is 2153 will we see the Romulan war? Is futureguy going to be the one who starts it?

I guess I also have a little problem with there being so much knowledge about other star systems already. But, hey, I'll wait to see it before I totally condemn it :0)

"If the Enterprise is faster than it should be the show will be poo."

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Originally posted by MIB:
90 years after first contact will place the pilot at 2153. I was hoping it would be a tad later than that. Qo'Nos in 4 days at warp 4.5 under the old warp charts? I think not! They had better find some kind of short cut or something in order to get there in 4 days.

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Originally posted by PsyLiam:
Come on people, we could have some comments on some of the other stuff?

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Alright.... you asked for it.

In order of article apperance:

1) The Producers constant use of their hometowns.

2) The non-explaination of how Starfleet can exist without the UFP. Our Starfleet was created when the UFP was created. This Starfleet is Earth's invention, probably created when the world government was formed.

3) A time traveling villian. If this is going to be a time travel show then make it one. NONE OF THIS PARADOX CRAP!

4) The Suliban

5) Superpower aliens [I'm tired of Q-wanna-bes].

6) NX-01

7) Phlox

8) The time to the Klingon homeworld at the speed stated for an Earth-Neptune trip.

9) Transporters

10) Earth is under a united government in 2150, when Australia is the last to join.

11) If T'Pol's rank is strictly Vulcan then she could be sent out an airlock and the Chain of Command wouldn't hurt at all.

12) I understand Hoshi's hearing ability... it's kinda like a trained sonar operator.

13) If Reed's weapons are phasers, well... I'm already POed.

14) /\ Phlox is an alien, Phlox is the doctor.

15) T'Pol's starcharts, and Phlox's medical knowledge explains there involvement in the first episode only. Their continued involvement is an incredibly contridiction.

16) I doubt they'll listen to continuity... We've already seen enough in this to know that.

17) Archer's experience with the butterfly-eaters... I want Star Trek not some MTV crap.

18) Archer and T'Pol's decontamination scene. I WANT STAR TREK NOT MTV CRAP!

19) There should be no arguement over who gets the Enterprise if Archer isn't there. Tucker is the highest ranking member in the Chain of Command. T'Pol isn't a part of the chain of command.

20) T'Pol is forcing the issue, that is not a Vulcan trait.

21) One can only hope that the Suliban get the temporal chamber from futureguy. It is irritating that they would have the technology to build one of there own and yet not be mentioned since this time period [and ST:X will not count].

22) Hoshi probably "learned" some Klingon during the trip or from T'Pol, but she certainly doesn't know any.

23) You can tell if a series will suck from it's pilot. That's why they do pilots. Pilots are shown to Network executives, and they decide if the series is good or not.

24) Berman created trouble in TNG and DS9, but there were others like Gene Roddenberry [TNG only of course], Ron Moore, Mike Okuda, Rick Sternbach, Robert Justman, etc that kept his manics to a low key. A good portion of these people are gone because of him.

25) "All Good Things..." was alright, but it wasn't the best episode in Star Trek... it rates with the worst IMO. "First Contact" was also good, but it had a great many problems with it too.

26) To Quote:
"So a quality show is not beyond the realm of possibility."
Agreed... it's just really really really slim.

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Now. Why is it that the speed of the ship is being picked on the most? Because it's the one with the most errors.

1) Warp 4.5 on either scale, TOS or TNG [an even older scale cannot be faster], could not possibly get beyond Alpha Centauri in four days... much less to Rigel or Qo`noS.

2) Qo`noS is some distance from Earth. At least a few dozen lightyears from Earth. This allows distance between Klingon controlled area and Earth/Fed controlled area. And leaves enough distance between them so that they will not have disputed territory until later.

3) Accepted tradition of 2210's First Contact. This wouldn't have counted if they just would have gone back to Earth. But the idea that the Klingon High Council knows what happens makes it a first contact.

4) The obvious problem of Klingon make-up.

5) A Klingon civil war, one we never heard about? One we prevented?

6) If Klingons can reach Earth in 2150's then why isn't Earth conquered like all other worlds the Klingons encounter? Don't say primitive, the Klingons wanted Organia and they thought it was primitive.