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Harry
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The rumours are strong in this one.

It seems like Kirk is coming back.

So.. are there any remotely plausible storylines that would involve an old, slightly overweight Captain Kirk? Or are they going to give him a virtual CG body [Smile] ?

The Temporal Cold War is out of the way, so this must be some sort of 'normal' time-travel story. Perhaps we'll see the NCC-1701. I wonder how believable it would be to have Archer & co be genuinely impressed by futuristic 60s technology..

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quote:
So.. are there any remotely plausible storylines that would involve an old, slightly overweight Captain Kirk?
Well, given that Shatner has got a CD out, it'll probably be a musical episode. Kirk's little known sideline as a singer in The Temporal Microphone nightclub.

I doubt we'll see the original NCC-1701. Unless they really do give him a CGI body, but we may see the Enterprise A. In which case Archer and co will have to be amazed by futuristic late 80s/early 90s technology.

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Maybe its' Q vs. Trelaine and they both decide to have Kirk do the Picard thing form "All good things" and on the way he gets trapped in the Nexus again where he comes out thru the gateway of time which was just a prototype for the Stargate that was the prototype for the Iconian gateways that leads them to an alternate Universe where this time Kirk has a beard and gets trapped in a negative room with the two Lazuras who have turned into the wondertwins from the Justice League that turns everyone into cartoons that reveals that this was all a plot for Kirk to make it with Holly Would from Cool World....the last babe in the Megaverse that Kirk hasn't hit on.

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Harry
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Yes, that does sound the most likely plot.

They should ask Krenim to write these episodes.

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Most likely a mix of time travel or pulling a copy out of the Nexus.
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Jason Abbadon
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Most likely the final nail in through Trek's wrists.....

I soooooooo hates Shatner!

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If it weren't for the fact that they'll be killing off the TCW arc right at the start of the season, I'd have guessed that some temporal tinkering on the part of someone like Silik - or even Daniels, I really never felt he could be trusted and would love it if he turned out to be little better (if not worse) than Future Guy - would produce a version of Kirk from the late 22nd/early 23rd centuries, who either never went into the Nexus to begin with, or survived his emergence from it.

Shatner hasn't played Kirk in ten years, the way he looks today it'll take a damn sight more than a change of wig to make him look like a version of Kirk from before Star Trek: Generations.

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Jason Abbadon
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Mabye we'll see a crazed mirror-universe Kirk or something: we never found out how that one died, IIRC.

The other option to (slightly) salvage this impossibly poor idea is to have Kirk in awe over Archer: some kinda hero worship thing mabye...

Man, I'd rather discover Futureguy is a Kazon than see Shatner's ego get another shot at fucking up Trek.

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I think Spock killed mirror Kirk in a comic, but those are about as un-canon as it gets.

The Nexus does sound like a plausable scenario. The Captain's Table concept also comes to mind, though I'm not completely clear on the details of it, not sure if temporal hijinks are allowed.

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I really don't understand the venom towards Shatner. I mean, he may not be the most admirable guy in real life, but he ALWAYS played Kirk well. I'm psyched.
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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:
I really don't understand the venom towards Shatner. I mean, he may not be the most admirable guy in real life, but he ALWAYS played Kirk well. I'm psyched.

My venom is that the show's called "Star Trek" not "Captain Kirk".
Really, the best of trek was after kirk died, and they went to considerable expense (and hype) to kill him off in a memorable way so why blow it with some cheesy return story that makes the killing of a major character in Trek even less dramatic -because you know they'll be back anyway- yawn.
One of the biggest flaws in nemesis ws the obvious "reset button" that B4 is to Data's death.

Once the CGI is good enough, they'll bring back McCoy, mark my words.
Less than ten years.
When they make Trek about the story, and an ensamble cast, it's at it's very best (DS9) and when it centers (more than briuefly) around 1-2 characters only, it's at it's lowest (Nemesis, most TNG 2-parters).

Fortunately I've been suprised to find even the worst of Enterprise's pllot synopsis (the Borg episode) have usually been well written and enjoyable, so there's at least hope.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Really, the best of trek was after kirk died...

I question your logic.
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Well, it shouldn't be the Nexus . . . 2137 and 2176 are the dates for that, with Enterprise falling smack in the middle. They'd have to make the Generations Nexus the Summer Nexus versus a Winter Nexus or something.

I'm sure they're tempted to make FutureGuy be Kirk. It's an insane idea that warps continuity, so Braga will have to change underwear if he thinks of during one of his drug-crazed manias.

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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Really, the best of trek was after kirk died...

I question your logic.
Clarifiaction: TNG, DS9 are both after kirk "died".
Neither series needed him in it to be great- neither does Enterprise.
It's a cheap gimmick in a series leaden down with far too many already.

Such things shout "Desperate for any ratings" rather than "quality".

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So, like, I haven't been reading intensely detailed descriptions of upcoming Enterprise episodes; is the Temporal Cold War resolution an actual clearing of the table, as it were, or just a sort of, look, here are some answers, now we won't talk about this for a while unless, you know, we want to later sort of thing?
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