One thing that I NEED you guys to do is not just to tell us what we missed but where you get whatever information you tell us. Oh yeah, I know this guy in real life, wow, we all have a real life. j/k. Anyway, I have been helping him(well, mostly listing to him talk for hours on end so he can sort things out verbally without looking weird as he talks to himself ) and we really need to know where ALL information came from as you might have noticed from his 10 posts or so.
On a different subject, he is the Monkey of Mim whos expertise is on federation starships, I am the Monkey of Mim whos expertise is on Physics in startrek and technology that relies a hell of a lot on our theoretical physics in startrek. I would be really happy if any of you could start some conversations focused more on this kind of technology that hopefully doesn't end up as a debate on REAL physics. Yes I love learning about REAL physics but we are talking about startrek here, we can include real physics in it but I dont want it to become exclusively on real physics.
Well, my own ships list just has SF ships, so I filtered everything else out of your list, and compared the names. I didn't check every class and registry and everything. I just check to see if there were any that one of us had and the other didn't. Most of what I found missing from your list are class ships. USS Nebula, USS Daedalus, and so on. I'll assume you left these out on purpose. If not, now you know.
Also missing were the following:
USS Discovery -- "The Squire of Gothos" (TOS) -- This one's still debatable. One would suspect it wasn't intended to be a ship name, but Kirk's poor grammar causes it to only make sense if it is. I choose to include it. You may not.
USS Republic -- "Valiant" (DS9) -- Some people think this is the same as the Constitution-class ship. I doubt it.
USS Yamato (five of them) -- "Where Silence Has Lease" (TNG) -- If we accept the NCC-1305-E registry as valid (which I do), there must have been five other Yamatos to precede the one we saw.
I also have some questions about things that were on your list. You may have simply copied them from other sources, and other people would have better answers. Hopefully I'll get the answers from someone...
USS Cochrane, NCC-8000 -- I think I remember this coming up before. How exactly did we find this out? Was it visible in the episode, or did someone simply claim that that was what the ship said?
USS Dauntless -- More a comment than a question... This wasn't a real Starfleet ship.
USS Defiant -- Another comment... You can't seriously think that the ship was supposed to have said that in WYLB, can you? It was just laziness on the part of the VFX guys. It should be ignored.
USS Jenol*n -- Actually, maybe I have more comments than I have questions. Anyway, the correct spelling of the caves for which this ship was named is "Jenolan". Since no two onscreen sources agree on the spelling, I'd recommend going w/ that one.
Kai Winn -- Are you sure this was a "USS" ship? I hope not...
USS Kongo -- There really isn't any evidence that an Excelsior-class by this name was ever used. I may have just been an idea in Okuda's head that never made it any further.
USS Lexington, Excelsior-class -- This ship wasn't actually seen in TNG, and the line in DS9 about the other Lexington, IIRC, pretty much says that the TNG one has to be the same as the DS9 one.
Shiku Maru -- Was this ever established to be a "USS"? The Encyclopedias don't give it a prefix.
USS Spector -- Wasn't this just in the Fact Files? I thought the Akira in MiaB was either unlabelled, or still labelled "Thunderchild".
USS Voyager, NCC-73602 -- Is this assuming the monstrosity seen in the DS9TM is actually the Voyager preproduction model, and that it was actually seen in DS9 somewhere?
USS Yellowstone -- I don't see any reason to assume this exists in the normal timeline, but some people do.
USS Yorktown -- Why assume the one mentioned in "Flashback" is a new one?
USS Zandura -- As mentioned, this wasn't actually in the movie.
NCC-13471 -- I'm just lonst on this one. Weren't the up-close shots in WYLB that showed a Miranda or two just stock footage?
NCC-73916 -- I have NCC-73918. I seem to recall there being a debate over this one in the past. Was a definitive answer reached, or did everyone just go w/ their preference?
I have been working with him, and we did talk about the USS Dauntless. He probably should have mentioned that he meant this to be a questionable one. It is possible that the alien took the design of the ship from the message that starfleet sent to Voyager because the shape does seem to have the new starship "look" that began with the dominion war(basically a pointy look). But, it is also possible that the alien had the ship already and just used the molecular synthesis technology to make the panels look right. From the name "molecular synthesis" it seems that he has the technology that will make it a lot easier to make a whole new ship with a design that is a real starfleet one to fool Voyager more easily. Well, that is just my two cents but it would be better to hear a hell of a lot more from him because he is the ship expert of the Monkeys of Mim.
OK...the thing with the Dauntless. It was established quite clearly that the ship was Arturis' ship. It wasn't taken form any existing Starfleet design. He made it *look* like a Starfleet ship through molecular synthesis, but the structure never changed. Just the detail.
What should be on your list is the possibility of a pre-TOS era U.S.S. Dauntless with the registry of NX/NCC-01. The suffix of "A" on Arturis' Dauntless might imply that he was taking the name from an early Starfleet ship. I, however, choose to believe that the new form of registry was meant to indicate the new form of propulsion. But that's me.
You know, you've gotta give this Arturis guy a lot of credit, even if he was insane. He's got a ship, albeit of alien origin, which looks quite uncannily like a Federation starship (Whether his ship originally looked like what we saw, or he made exterior modifications to make it look more Starfleet-ish, is never found out). He paints the Starfleet logos on the outside hull. He has to have done some extensive research into the interiors of Federation starships for his particle synthesis thingy. He also knows past names and registries of Federation vessels, as the Voyager crew do not even question the name "Dauntless" or the registry of NX-01A. And he somehow intercepted the Admiral's message and was able to edit it to his own making.
That's a hell of a lot of work just to kill Voyager's crew.
-------------------- "A film made in 2008 isn't going to look like a TV series from 1966 if it wants to make any money. As long as the characters act the same way, and the spirit of the story remains the same then it's "real" Star Trek. Everything else is window dressing." -StCoop
If his computers and replication technology were only slightly more advanced than the Federation's, though, he could basically just dictate your instructions to the computer and have it do all the nitty gritty work.
"Computer: Design a Starfleet-like ship with more advanced drives. Paint logos on the hull. Pick a name and registry that's a logical choice for such a ship, given our access to Federation data banks, and edit this intercepted message as follows..."
I mean, if the Enterprise can whip together Moriarty based on an off-hand challenge ("design an opponent who can defeat Data"), how much further do you need to extrapolate?
Heck, maybe he just said, "Computer, I want to mess with Voyager's crew. Figure out a way."
1. I am not among those who believe the myth of the U.S.S. Discovery.
2. I am among those who believe that the Republic is the old Constitution.
3. Actually, I just added that hyphen accidentally. The actual registry was NCC-1305E without a dash before the E. I tend to think it was just a part of the registry number and not a sequence indicator. (Like the TAS ships.)
4. The U.S.S. Cochrane NCC-8000 is from the TNG Companion.
5. I am aware the Dauntless wasn't a real Starfleet ship. However, it may actually be based on a real ship. Plus, I'd just add it anyway to add because even though it was fake I like the Dauntless and think it deserve a place in the chart. (Sorry.)
6. Whether it was an error by the VFX people or not, the onscreen evidence clearly and repeatedly shows that the new Defiant is still NX-74205.
7. I agree that the 'a' spelling is probably the most accurate, but for now I'm listing the one given in both the Encyclopedias and the Fact Files.
8. I'm fairly sure that the U.S.S. Kai Winn was indeed on the ship readout in "Whispers" (DS9). Go figure.
9. Correct. Still waiting for confirmation on the Excelsior-class Kongo. I just put it in for now because I was printing my copy out and I didn't want to have to go back and add it later. (What can I say, I'm lazy!)
10. I list the Excelsior-class and Nebula-class Lexingtons because the Encyclopedia does.
11. Not sure about this one. You're probably right. I think I just got the prefix from someone else's list.
12. The Spector is from the Fact Files. (For the purposes of this list, FF, Encyclopedia, and Tech. Man.[official] info counts.)
13. It is assuming exactly that.
14. I'm just listing everything that's been seen or mentioned. (I'm not really debating as to whether it exists in the normal timeline.)
15. Because the Constitution-class was turned into the Enterprise-A.