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The Red Admiral
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I don't know if what was referred to earlier was an Antares class or a Talarian ship. MMoM thinks its one thing, Dukhat thinks its another, and I'm not sure.

And MMoM I never said anything against your description of the D7 Battlecruiser. I myself in the initial thread identify this also as a D7 Battlecruiser (or as AndrewR suggests a Romulan equivilent thereof).

I don't call myself anti-Apollo class, I just subscribe to one theory, you subscribe to another. It's as simple as that.

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Okay then.

Won't you join me then for a cup of Lotus Blossom tea and then we can sit in the grass and form a circle, joining hands and singing "Michael Row the Boat Ashore" and it will be GROOVY!!!!



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Apollo Class-
As I presented in the Top 5 unanswered ship questions topic. According to some SFX guys at a convention the Apollo class was a Ambassador kitbash that was used in unseen fotage for Embisary and was briefly seen in another episode.
For more info see the aforementioned discussion. Or just ask as I can't seem to find it at the moment.

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Shik
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Oi! That saucer mit nacelles on the side....what if THAT'S Ed Miarecki's Rigel-class model? Maybe "2 saucers" wasn't completely correct. It has the "nacelles in the middle" thing to it...

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What we need, is a DVD of "Emissary" with an added feature with the original effects. Or someone contacting Rob Legato.

I'd reckon Rob'd be a more likely chance than the first option!

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I think the Ex-astris (Bernd, Chris Spinnler,etc.) folks in their Wolf 359 research project thingee already identified that saucer as part of an Excelsior prototype. The rest of the model is obscured by lighting. That's why the saucer is 'floating.'

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oh, yeah:

The Battlecruiser is definitely a K'tinga-class. (You can tell by the bridge module.)

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PsyLiam
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There's also the thing that the chances of the D& model still being around were zero. the K'tinga is almost certainly the model from ST VI (which would have jsut had a spruce up at ILM).

The K'tinga wasn't seen in BOBW, was it? So did they take the existing scene and add to it, or are there actually new shots put in?

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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BoBW shots weren't the ONLY shots used in 'Unification.' They scrounged up a lot of other miscellaneous models and shot them for the junkyard scene.

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PsyLiam
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No, but that shot with the K'Tinga looks suspiciously similar to the shot just before the commercial break in BOBW. Except that the K'Tinga has replaced the Constitution secondary hull (which would have actually made more sense in a surplus yard).

Oh, and a shit load of aother ships have been added.

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IIRC, the Klingon ship was not filmed for BoBW. It was purposely put into the Unification junkyard as a sight gag.

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What was the deal with there being klingon ships at the Battle of Wolf 359? Wasn't there like a line in BoBW about it, and then in that one Voyager ep they showed a flashback w/some BoP's getting swatted by a Borg cube?

Please clarify.

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The clips were shown in Unity. Basically, they took shots of a Borg cube firing from Scorpion, and then showed clips of Klingon vessels getting shot in Way of the Warrior. So the white pulses the cube fires become photon torpedoes when they hit the Klingon ships.

Er, how's the K'Tinga ship a sight-gag? I mean, it's not like it's an uncommon ship. If they'd had a Daedalus class there, or an original Constitution, or an Imperial Star Destroyer then, maybe, yeah. But a K'tinga?

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