Those are the official figures for all the ships portrayed in the manual. Whether they exactly match up with what's onscreen or not, those are the correct figures. Discrepancies are due to the VFX dept. not always scaling their ships correctly. I don't really care if it doesn't always match with what's on the screen because what's on the screen can always be distorted by the angle or distance to/from the camera lense. Our perception of how big things appear in the show is not always how big they actually are.
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Actually the VFX are pretty consistant when displaying the Akira. The deck count confirmed the 440m (give or take about 20 meters) length of the Akira class.
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*gags*....what next, a Saber the size of a Galaxy?
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Let me ask you this: What reference do we have other than the chart in the back of the Encyclopedia? The saber has never been shown onscreen either clarly or for an extended period of time. We saw it where? In FC and in a couple Dominion War eps. In neither place was it seen right next to another ship with which we could get an accurate comparison, and in both places it was only there very briefly, and moving by so fast it was in a blur!
Why can't it be the same size as the Norway?
You can't tell from screenshots. In that whole Akira thing, you don't have any clue how much closer the excelsior is to the camera compared with the Akira and the Steamrunner. It's impossible to tell, it's an optical illusion, like "objects in mirror are closer than they appear." It's best to go witht he official figures.
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And I do realize that the Fact Files are so full of holes that it's downright embarressing, but there is some stuff in there that you can't find anywhere else, like registry numbers (U.S.S. Akira, etc.) and class designations. (Whorfin-class, etc.)
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quote:Why can't it be the same size as the Norway?
Same length, same width, and same height. How likely is this?
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Not anymore implausible than the whole Hermes/Saladin deal, where two separate ship classes are like, EXACTLY the same, not only in dimensions, but in arrangement too.
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Maybe the Hermes is a sub-class of the Saladin.
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"In neither place was it seen right next to another ship with which we could get an accurate comparison"
Yes it was, it was in a similar location to a Miranda in SoA. There the Saber appeared to be about 190m.
"In that whole Akira thing, you don't have any clue how much closer the excelsior is to the camera compared with the Akira and the Steamrunner. It's impossible to tell, it's an optical illusion, like 'objects in mirror are closer than they appear.'"
Nope. Wrong. Incorrect.
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You're fired. Get the hell out of my office.
Regarding the Saber vs. Norway, their different shapes invalidate the tech manual size.
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