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Constitution - 26 Ambassador - 40
These according to my hand count of the models that I have recently put together (the E-nil one being the cutaway version). Though I'm wary of even conceiving that the cutaway Enterprise might be slightly accurate.
Any other sources/materials/thoughts on this all important minutia matter?
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In TOS, there is a ship chart affixed across from the dedication plate. This shows the number of decks. If someone can get a clear screencap of this chart, we can know the number of decks for the USS Enterprise. Well, at least as the original planners had in mind.
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Hasn't that already been invalidated considering that the scale is way off and main engineering is in the wrong place? TMoST also says the saucer is eleven decks thick. Is this possible?
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Why would the scale be off? The ship is about a thousand feet long, as it's supposed to by modern reckoning. And the positioning of main engineering has never been canonically confirmed.
Eleven decks for the saucer seems just about within the limits of possibility, if the lower dome counts as a deck - Shane Johnson, apparently going by Probert's original plans, adds a deck between Jeffries' #3 and #4 to make the count come up to the desired number, but then again, the E-refit saucer is slightly differently shaped from the TOS version.
In any case, we still lack canonical confirmation of the number of decks, since Jeffries' picture was never shown in an episode AFAIK. Unless we want to count the FJ-derived pictures flashing on the movie-era ship monitors (23 decks, I believe), or the ST5:TFF "information" (78 decks, one per each TOS episode...).
One interesting thing about the original Jeffries cutaway is that Deck 5 falls at the primary hull rim, making ti one of the largest decks... and we know officers' quarters are on Deck 5, so that makes some sense. Re: Engineering, the largish room in the aft primary hull extends into the neck, making it impossible to be the engine room. I'd invent a purpose for that space, and put engineering sharing the oversized deck with the hanger deck. Just observations.
The thing with the Ambassador is, to me, she has more windows in the saucer then she has decks. That, or all the windows are in the ceiling of the rooms...
By looking at the saucer from my model of the Yamaguchi, there is one row of windows on the saucer rim. On the bottom dome there are 3 rows of windows, but there are probably 4 decks because there is a row of phaser strips as well. On the top of the saucer though, I'm counting 7 rows of windows, but all oddly spaced from one another. The first four rows of windows (from the edge inward) are very closely packed, along with escape pods and phaser strips. Of course, then there are 3 more decks for the entire upper module (shuttlebay and bridge). This makes the Ambassador have, according to windows at least, 15 decks in the saucer (11 if you're counting from the neck up to the bridge).
Looking at the neck, there are 6 decks, clearly shown. This gives us 18 decks from the bridge down to the top of the engineering hull.
7 more rows of windows on the side of the engineering hull, although I suspect there may be room for another deck right where the neck meets the hull, and there just aren't any windows there. There also could be a very bottom deck along the keel, maybe. Adding this up, we now have 27 decks.
Now, after all that, doesn't 27 seem a tad short to you guys?
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