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OnToMars
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You have a point, but I seriously doubt it was that damaged. When the damage becomes that severe, it would be destroyed.

As for the Exeter, if I were running the show, I would do everything in my power to not just waste a Constitution class starship in perfect working order. Sometimes people don't have a concept of how hard it must be to build a starship from scratch (part of why I personally prescribe to the ultra-small Starfleet theory).

Really, there would be SOME way of removing the virus. I don't think at three o'clock on a Friday afternoon the engineers said, "Aw, the hell with it. We'll just build another one over the weekend."

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Yes, Red Admiral, there is a time when Janeway does that. It is "Scorpion," the third season finale. That's where the Endeavour debate started. Amasov is that ship's captain.

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As I pointed out, other ships have had "brief" encounters with the Borg at places besides Wolf 359. The Tombaugh was caught by the Borg before Wolf 359, and the Excalibur had some crew assimilated. The same could have happened to the Endeavour.

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IIRC the only thing mentioned was, what Amasov thinks about the Borg. The Endeavour could have been a rescue ship after the Battle of Wolf 359 and Amasov saw what the Borg did with the fleet.

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There are two things that we are certain about-
a ship did survive the battle
this same ship rescued survivors from Sisko's ship

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quote:
this same ship rescued survivors from Sisko's ship

How do you know this?

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Also keep in mind that we know the Borg had other ships active in or around Federation space after Wolf 359. It's not impossible some ship not named Enterprise had a run-in with one of these vessels.
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Escape pods. I guess it is likely they got rescued by a ship, but its possible they got away to a starbase or Earth or something.

Borg Ship:
Drone 1: There goes another one.
Drone 2: Hold your fire. Benjamin Sisko is on that escape pod. They need him for a series.
(reminisent of a scene from Star Wars ANH?)

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When the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D enters the grave yard in "The Best of the Both Worlds, Part 2", her sensors detected no life signs. If there were space normal life pods in the debris, the starship's sensors would have noted the space crafts. The absence of these space crafts is circumstantial proof that an unnamed starship 'scooped up' the life pods.
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That's the most reasonable explanation. We could also speculate that the lifeboats were in fact left to their own devices, and the Borg assimilated or destroyed most of them. A select few survived because they managed to fool Borg sensors - and they kept on fooling the sensors when the E-D arrived, since they did not trust that this was a real starship. Perhaps the Borg had gotten a few of the camouflaged pods assimilated by sending out fake Starfleet signals?

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Veers
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Let's see...11,000 lives lost, 39 ships. Add the crew totals together based on estimates, and what do you get?
Beats me.

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The escape pods could have left the area, heading for the nearest planet in the Wolf 359 system.

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Assuming that the system had any planets. And the E-D had displayed the ability to scan an entire star system for small vessels before, and then to ascertain if there were lifesigns aboard. Why was the ability not there this time?

Might it be that the ship just couldn't do this in the reverse order? Perhaps there was too much debris there to locate a lifepod through ship-locating sensors, and the life-locating sensors in turn could not work at multi-AU distances unless first cued to their target by the ship-locating ones.

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Well if we already know that one starship survived, and that we know there were no lifesigns or active...*something or other* fields then that ship must have left the system before the E-D arrived.
We also know that there were escape pods containing survivors and they did not appear to be any hanging around when the E-D arrived, so it seams reasonable to assume that the surviving ship was the one that picked everyone up before it left the system, rather than abandon them.
The Real question is, which ship was this?
The Endevour is the only known candidate, at least as far as I am aware.
This could also provide a nice tie-in to First Contact, in that the Endevour was present at that battle too (acording to radio chatter if that nebbie wasn't labled as such), and the reason for it's presence was that starfleet wanted a ship experinced in fighting the borg but didn't quite trust Picard.

This is all speculation but it fits rather nicely and its not an overly complex theory.

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IIRC, a new ship class was to be designed for the Endeavour, that of a "Nebularized" Sovereign. But alas, as with the Zandura, the ship never materialized on screen.

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