Flare Sci-fi Forums
Flare Sci-Fi Forums Post New Topic  Post A Reply
my profile | directory login | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Flare Sci-Fi Forums » Star Trek » Starships & Technology » Galaxy captain's yacht. (Page 1)

  This topic comprises 3 pages: 1  2  3   
Author Topic: Galaxy captain's yacht.
cptmkb
I WAS IN THE FUTURE, IT WAS TOO LATE TO RSVP
Member # 709

 - posted      Profile for cptmkb     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I was just looking at the plans for the Gally cap'n's yacht, and it looks like they designed it to be able to be made out of the E-D viewscreen, ready room, crew quarters (windows) and bridge stations (conn/ops) makes me wonder why they didnt try it.

what does everyone think of the design? i just thought it was neat

I'm going to try and 3D the interior....

--------------------
"C'mon, tightly hold your hand / Take a deep breath, give them the finger / Are you worried that your thoughts are not quite.. clear?" - Our Lady Peace, One Man Army


Registered: Sep 2001  |  IP: Logged
Aban Rune
Former ascended being
Member # 226

 - posted      Profile for Aban Rune     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Well, since AFAIK, the only time the Galaxy's Captain's Yacht has been drawn up was for the Tech Manual and the Blueprints, I doubt it was ever "meant" to be made. Whoever drew up those plans may have used elements from the existing sets and obviously used a Galaxy Class "feel" for things like the stations...but I don't think there were ever plans to actually make this set.

I remember that they were thinking of using the Yacht for the trip to the Starbase in "Samaritan Snare" I think, but I don't think it ever got as far as designing the sets. I guarantee that if they were to ever build a set for the Yacht, the existing plans would not inhibit further creativity...

That said, I'm goign to look up the decks plans for this thing when I get home.

--------------------
"Nu ani anqueatas"

Aban's Illustration
The Official Website of Shannon McRandle


Registered: Oct 1999  |  IP: Logged
cptmkb
I WAS IN THE FUTURE, IT WAS TOO LATE TO RSVP
Member # 709

 - posted      Profile for cptmkb     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I think that Sternbach (who did most ofthe Tech manual) had it in mind when he designed it... remember , the tech manual came out while the show was still on the air. He probably did the drawings in there intending to stick to them should they ever get a chance to use the thing, so he made sure it wouldnt involve complicated set-building. They always said it ws something they really looked forward to doing one day...

i considered it a let down that the only time we got to see a yacht was insurrection, im still not sure i like that whole design.. it just a big shuttle

--------------------
"C'mon, tightly hold your hand / Take a deep breath, give them the finger / Are you worried that your thoughts are not quite.. clear?" - Our Lady Peace, One Man Army


Registered: Sep 2001  |  IP: Logged
AndrewR
Resident Nut-cache
Member # 44

 - posted      Profile for AndrewR     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Well, I've never seen a good internal view of the Captain's Yacht! I don't think I can make heads nor tails of the Tech manual pic. And, well I've scoured my E-D blueprints and have found NO Captain's yacht. Which page/blueprint is it supposed to be on?

I have a question. We know that they were going to use it in Samaritan Snare. We also know that the original 6' model had the capability to separate the saucer. I wonder if the Captain's yacht could come out too!?! Same goes for that underslung shuttle on the the Ferengi Marauder.

--------------------
"Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica." - Jim Halpert. (The Office)

I'm LIZZING! - Liz Lemon (30 Rock)


Registered: Mar 1999  |  IP: Logged
cptmkb
I WAS IN THE FUTURE, IT WAS TOO LATE TO RSVP
Member # 709

 - posted      Profile for cptmkb     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I'm just basing my comments on the half-cutaway presented in the TNG Tech Manual. The viewscreen is the exacly the same as the E-D's, same conn/ops console, and the windows on the side are designed to correspond with the interior windows built for all the TNG quarters sets

--------------------
"C'mon, tightly hold your hand / Take a deep breath, give them the finger / Are you worried that your thoughts are not quite.. clear?" - Our Lady Peace, One Man Army

Registered: Sep 2001  |  IP: Logged
Starship Freak
Active Member
Member # 293

 - posted      Profile for Starship Freak     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
"underslung shuttle on the Ferengi Marauder" What is this?? That┤s a first for me? I knew the marauder has this weird "pod" on top, but a shuttle under the ship?

--------------------
"The Starships of the Federation are the physical, tangible manifestations of Humanity┬┤s stubborn insistence that life does indeed mean something."
Spock to Leonard McCoy in "Final Frontier"

Registered: Jan 2000  |  IP: Logged
Aban Rune
Former ascended being
Member # 226

 - posted      Profile for Aban Rune     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
*seconds pIn'a' Sov's head scratching*

Aban's never heard of this either. Care to share a piccie?

Elements in the drawings being the same as the bridge and other sets could be attributed to laziness. Those who drew the plans could simply have taken drawings of the other sets and cut and pasted them together... I'm not saying they did, nor am I saying that there wasn't a plan to use existing sets for the Yacht should it ever be needed, all I'm saying is this: We freaks are darn good at pointing out reused sets. I think it's highly unlikely that they would use the Ent. D's ready room set as the Captain's Yacht's ready room set and expect to get away with it.

--------------------
"Nu ani anqueatas"

Aban's Illustration
The Official Website of Shannon McRandle


Registered: Oct 1999  |  IP: Logged
cptmkb
I WAS IN THE FUTURE, IT WAS TOO LATE TO RSVP
Member # 709

 - posted      Profile for cptmkb     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Just like I never thought they'd use a Next Generation movie ship design for a ship that predates the original USS Enteprise by 100 years...
but they seem to be getting way with it

(but they could be halfway to mexico by now... lets stop them!)

What does everyone else think: was using drawings of Galaxy set pieces for the Galaxy yacht plans gifted foresight or artistic laziness?

--------------------
"C'mon, tightly hold your hand / Take a deep breath, give them the finger / Are you worried that your thoughts are not quite.. clear?" - Our Lady Peace, One Man Army


Registered: Sep 2001  |  IP: Logged
Fedaykin Supastar
Member
Member # 704

 - posted      Profile for Fedaykin Supastar         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
there was a small cutaway of the Captain's yacht in the TNG:TM???

*flips pages*

hmmmm.

oh another thing with this (TNG:TM) manual? is it considered canon by the majority of 'us' since it seems less silly than the DS9 one.

Which brings me to the point, why didn't they build a new vessel under the Nova-class idea (with a different design i suppose)

If they've already done that then i deserve a boot to the head!

Buzz

--------------------
"Tom is Canadian. He thereby uses advanced humour tecniques, such as 'irony', 'sarcasm', and werid shit'. If you are not qualified in any of these, it will be risky for you to attempt to decipher what he means. Just smile and carry on."
- PsyLiam; 16th June


Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged
AndrewR
Resident Nut-cache
Member # 44

 - posted      Profile for AndrewR     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
It is mentioned in the Star Trek: The Next Generation compendium. Also look at Adam Heinbuch's schematic:

http://www.majinc-web.com/sapphireeclipse/Ferengi1.gif

It is on the next and the 'head' underneath. It doesn't look like the pod that debuted in "The Price".

--------------------
"Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica." - Jim Halpert. (The Office)

I'm LIZZING! - Liz Lemon (30 Rock)


Registered: Mar 1999  |  IP: Logged
cptmkb
I WAS IN THE FUTURE, IT WAS TOO LATE TO RSVP
Member # 709

 - posted      Profile for cptmkb     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Well, most people showed varying degrees of outrage when the new scout vessel design seen in Equinox was referred to as 'Nova-class', because it obviously wasnt intended to perform as a new explorer-type vessel
I'm not sure why. The only mention of the Nova-class was that it was a tentative name given to a series of four possible designs for new explorer type vessels, that would probably be smaller and more maneuverable but just as powerful as the Galaxy.
I would think that these plans would be scrapped anyway, because Starfleet really isnt looking to build any explorer-type vessels right now. Theyve refocused their shipbuilding efforts into smaller escorts and cruisers that present less of a target to the new aggressors that cropped up between the era of the TNG:TM and the current time period.
I also wonder what type of vessel the Sovereign-class is intended to be, since Sternbach, Drexler and Okuda like to call everything an explorer (Excels., Ambass., Intrepid.. etc..) but i think that the militaristic atmosphere aboard the E-E really doesnt make it look very explorer-like, fitting more of the role of a heavy cruiser.

Registered: Sep 2001  |  IP: Logged
Fedaykin Supastar
Member
Member # 704

 - posted      Profile for Fedaykin Supastar         Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
thnx for the information, i forgot about the Equinox *boot-to-the-Head*

Buzz

--------------------
"Tom is Canadian. He thereby uses advanced humour tecniques, such as 'irony', 'sarcasm', and werid shit'. If you are not qualified in any of these, it will be risky for you to attempt to decipher what he means. Just smile and carry on."
- PsyLiam; 16th June


Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged
Aban Rune
Former ascended being
Member # 226

 - posted      Profile for Aban Rune     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hmm. That's kind of cool. It definitely does look like it could be a little pod under there. It's got the little Fergengi emblems on it too. From that diagram, there also appears to be a separation plane for the head of the Marauder.

--------------------
"Nu ani anqueatas"

Aban's Illustration
The Official Website of Shannon McRandle

Registered: Oct 1999  |  IP: Logged
PsyLiam
Hungry for you
Member # 73

 - posted      Profile for PsyLiam     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Isn't that for when the Maurader stretches? (An idea used only in "The Last Outpost", and even then it didn't really make sense).

--------------------
Yes, you're despicable, and... and picable... and... and you're definitely, definitely despicable. How a person can get so despicable in one lifetime is beyond me. It isn't as though I haven't met a lot of people. Goodness knows it isn't that. It isn't just that... it isn't... it's... it's despicable.

Registered: Mar 1999  |  IP: Logged
MrNeutron
Senior Member
Member # 524

 - posted      Profile for MrNeutron     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Aban Rune:
Hmm. That's kind of cool. It definitely does look like it could be a little pod under there. It's got the little Fergengi emblems on it too. From that diagram, there also appears to be a separation plane for the head of the Marauder.

Um, that "little pod" under the Marauder would be several hundred feet long. Andy Probert says it's a swept-forward wing raiding craft.

And the lines around the front end are where the ship "expands". Andy said the idea was that the when a Fenergi ship surrendered the front end would slide out, the weapons would fold down, and etc. The idea being that they were "exposing their throat" as a sign of capitulation...with the idea that the Enterprise crew would misinterpret the gesture (being unfamiliar with the concept).

--------------------
"Well, I mean, it's generally understood that, of all of the people in the world, Mike Nelson is the best." -- ULTRA MAGNUS, steadfast in curmudgeon


Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged
  This topic comprises 3 pages: 1  2  3   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is enabled.
UBB Code™ is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


© 1999-2008 Solareclipse Network.

Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3