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Spike
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I got screenshots of the computerdisplay seen in the DS9 episode "The Siege of AR558".

Pic 1
Pic 2

It's a modification of the "In the Pale Moonlight"-display and it shows that Romulan ships use P.W.B. There are also some Klingon ships. Any guesses what PWB means?

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Since we only saw the Romulan warbirds being used in the Dominion War battle scenes, I guess that PWB could stand for Praetorial WarBird.

I'll also add that there seems to be a secondary identification under the Romulan ship names. On the Federation ships, the ship's registry is written in a smaller font under the ship's name. Under the Romulan ship's name is another word(s)/number(s) in a smaller font.

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Excellent caps!

Some new stuff, finally.

Interesting in that the chart is formatted with "Stock Footage, USS" for the Feds but "PWB Stock Footage" for the Rommies. Perhaps "PWB" isn't exactly analogical to USS, although I'd consider it a fair enough guess to assume that Okuda was getting at Praetor's Warbird.

I'll second Sieggy's idea that the single string of characters below the Romulan ships' name is some kind of registry. One wonders if its a mixture of letters and numbers or just a straight number.

Does anyone have any idea what the coloured boxes beside each name represent? Different colors for Wounded, MIA and KIA?

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I think the Romulan registry is the registry of the Starfleet ship, that was on this place on the original display.

The first ship in the first column in pic 2 looks like 'IHR. Could be a Klingon ship named FEK'IHR.

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The unnamed Romulan bird-of-prey in "Balance of Terror" is identified as a Praetor's Warbird.
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It looks like there's a "USS" on the line. It looks like USS George or USS Cole to me.

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USS Wyoming is easily identifiable. I believe another one is USS Tecumseh. Starbase 119 looks to be on there too. Don't know the rest.
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Yes, the boxes by the names are differently colored and say "KIA", "MIA" and "WIA". We've seen clear scans of one of these Okudagrams before.
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On the clear scann yellow for example is used for MIA and KIA.
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You guys probably have looked harder than i have, but the first top row (of the second pic) im looking at looks like
P.W.B TxxxxxL.. TORxxAL.. Toroidal. probably not
P.W.B DxxxxxxX.. maybe the D'Deridex
KEARSARGE, U.S.S. (maybe)--this ship lacks a NCC registry also, but has a Starfleet arrowhead

The clearest ones are to the left and theyre cut off, both Romulan but seem a little wierd
--x'LHR
--J'xxxR.. the x letters look like A or Ms

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quote:
Originally posted by CaptainMike:
KEARSARGE, U.S.S. (maybe)--this ship lacks a NCC registry also, but has a Starfleet arrowhead

Starbase 129

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both Romulan
--x'LHR

The insignia doesn't look like the Romulan. I think that's a Klingon ship.


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What happens to these marvellous Okudagrams!?! It's true that they're all done on the 'puter aren't they? Get a hold of Mike Okuda and ask him for the names. (The ships not the people - although some of the positions for the Romulan and Klingon personnel would be interesting)

Romulan positions we've heard of so far:

Centurion
surely there are positions in here
Sub Commander
Commander
how about above here

Political:

Senator
Proconsul
Praetor

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Here's what I think we have:

a b d f h i k m
a c d f h i k m
a c e f h i k m
a c e g h j l n
a c e g h j l n

a) PWB *'***** [Rom] ****
b) ******* *** [no icon] *******
c) ******* *** [SF] ********
d) *** ***K'LHR [Kli] ****
e) *** J'***R [Rom] ****
f) PWB TO**AL [Rom] 2****6
g) WYOMING, USS [SF] NCC 427**
h) PWB D***** [Rom] 5*****2
i) STARBASE 1*9 [SF]
j) ******* *** [SF] ******
k) PWB ******* [Rom] ******
l) ******** USS? [SF] ******
m) *** ****** [Kli] *****
n) **** USS? [SF] ******

(d), the *** ***K'LHR has a snippet of a KDF logo below it, I think. (A Klingon emblem with a polygonal rather than circular background). That would lend creedence to IKS FEK'LHR. There's what could be another Klingon logo in the far right column.

(c) jumps out at me as either KEARSAGE, USS or STARBASE 122. The presence of a registry might make me lean towards a ship.

Andrew: I think "Centurion" has been shown to be consistently lower in rank than "Commander." Both the old dude in "Balance of Terror" and Bochra in "The Enemy" seemed to treat Commanders as superiors. Wasn't there a rank of "Subalmet" or something similar mentioned on Voyager?

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quote:
Get a hold of Mike Okuda and ask him for the names

Sent him a mail on Saturday.

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c) ******* *** [SF] ********

Cochrane, U.S.S.
NCC-59318
(from the original display)

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f) PWB TO**AL [Rom] 2****6

19386 (assuming that the Tripolis' NCC is used)

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g) WYOMING, USS [SF] NCC 427**

NCC-43730 (from the original display)

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h) PWB D***** [Rom] 5*****2

33184 (assuming that the Zapata's NCC is used)

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i) STARBASE 1*9 [SF]

Starbase 129 (from the original display)

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j) ******* *** [SF] ******

Tecumseh, U.S.S.
NCC-14934
(from the original display)

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k) PWB ******* [Rom] ******

38529 (assuming that the Sarajevo's NCC is used)

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l) ******** USS? [SF] ******

Victory, U.S.S.
NCC-9754
(from the original display)

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n) **** USS? [SF] ******

Nobel, U.S.S.
NCC-55012
(from the original display)

Original display

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I don't think the Romulan ships have the same numbers from the original display. They appear to be more then 5 digits.

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