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Siegfried: next time you buy a computer, definitely get a laptop or a desktop computer with a DVD drive. It's perfect for watching multi-region DVDs and capturing images on your hard drive.
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ST:TMP-DE is definatly my next DVD purchase when I go to the mall. Have to also buy FarScape DVD #5 (which somehow I skipped), and Grand Theft Auto 3 for the PS2.
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quote:Originally posted by Siegfried: There's just two things I hope got fixed. The first is when Kirk leaves the airlock to pursue Spock into V'Ger. As the camera pulls back, you can the sound stage and rigging on the right side.
That scene isn't in the new cut. It wasn't in the original release, either; it was added in the "special longer" ABC/VHS version. If you notice, Kirk's suit helmet is different in that scene than when he meets up with Spock... it's more like the 2001 or Enterprise helmets. The exit scene is actually a part of the abandoned "Memory Wall" sequence. In any case, it's not in the new cut, so it didn't have to be fixed.
quote:Originally posted by Siegfried: Also, as Ilia, Decker, Kirk, Spock, and McCoy leave through the personnel airlock on top of the saucer to go to V'Ger's core, the matte painting of the upper saucer is truly atrocious.
In The Magazine, they show several shots from right around that part, all using some new CGI work on the "brick" path that leads to V'Ger and a few new angles of the ship, so it seems reasonable to assume that the saucer shot was redone, too. I sure hope so, too.
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quote:Originally posted by Ryan McReynolds:
In the Star Trek: The Magazine article featuring that image, they said that Foundation Imaging took their CGI Enterprise and placed the camera behind the appropriate window to get the angle right... I have no idea how accurate it is, but it seems they did try something to make it fit.
Yeah, they used the bigass Rec Deck windows, forgetting that they weren't supposed to be little things, but actual BIGASS windows.
Unless, of course, this is one of those "hidden behind a sliding hull plate" windows that can be activated at the touch of a button like the FWD observation lounge in ST5.
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More ambitious would have been to cut the background and insert the correctly shaped windows from Probert's sketch.. CGI ship interiors work too, like the Voyager corridor they modeled to blow up in 'Fury'.
And add Sisko and some tribbles in the background...
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Here's a page that's got a review and tons of screencaps. When you're done w/the review, go down to the bottom of the page and hit the link to the photo gallery. Prepare to piss your pants.
SS Enterprise NX-01 hasn't been put in place of the SS Enterprise spaceliner.
WOHOO! The ugly matte-painted of Kirk and Co. walking on the Enterprise hull is removed!
Not only that, but the huge "block land" has been shrunk down to a "block bridge", which does look really cool if you ask me.
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That is a much better shot of the Enterprise at V'Ger's central complex. I really like that it is now a space bridge instead of a large mass of hexagonal stones. That truly is a beautiful shot.
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Well, as we can all testify to, sometimes the producers just make oddly bizarre decisions.
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I am expecting many of you to throw brimstone and fire upon me for this. Oh, well.
In the original version, space station Epsilon Nine received intelligence on the failed Klingon attack on stardate 7411.40. How do I know this? Listen to the background chatter with Commodore Probert and the two scouts.
Soon after this scene is shown, we see Admiral Kirk arrive at Starfleet Headquarters.
Now, in the latest version (one of three or four), we see that the events which occured at the Headquarters were prior to the Epsilon Nine sequence (7410.20 is earlier than 7411.40). If stardate 7411.40 is retained, what would be the reason that Admiral Kirk demanded his former command?
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There isn't a good explanation. One could make the argument that Starfleet had been tracking the cloud for some time before Epsilon 9 picked up the Klingon squadron's signal. If Starfleet determined that the cloud was going to enter Federation space, he could have used this as the core of his argument to retake command of the Enterprise.
However, that explanation can be refuted. If I recall, Kirk comments to both Scotty and (later) McCoy that the cloud is headed to Earth and and he has to stop it. This would mean that he (and Starfleet) knew it was already heading towards Earth so Epsilon 9 wasn't breaking anything new. But, if Starfleet knew the cloud was already coming, then they would have had the time to find another ship to take Kirk out there.
It's kind of a mess unless someone can come in here and correct me if I'm wrong about the events or dialogue.
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I, for one, hope they fix the godawful visuals in the first probe shots on the bridge. The warping they had to do to get rid of the technican running the probe always annoyed me. It's one of my personal pet peeves, like Obi-Wan Kenobi's disappearing lightsaber in SW (which, for whatever reason, Lucas didn't fix in the Special Edition).
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