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It'a a tiny thing, and I'm not really that bothered by it (Jeff's girlfriend said to him today. Sorry. ), but some of the spoiler titles are getting a little bit out of hang. I don't find anything wrong with this one, but let's not give out any more detail, okay? "ENT OH MY GOD HE'S GAY (spoilers)" for instance is a bit too far.
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Hahahahah. I'm told you Liverpoolians like them small, Liam
Of course, when talking about a big arc for a character, a spoiler warning might be called for. "Picard gets turned into a Borg and has psychological problems!" would've been spoiler neccessary, don't you think?
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The model from T+T is NOT different from the TOS model! Why does everyone say that it is? There is EXTREMELY SLIGHT detailing on the hull that is not quite the perfectly smooth and low-detailed TOS model, but the model was built by Jein to represent the TOS ship. It's not any different, really.
Here's the battlecruisers we've seen in chronological Trek time:
1.) 2150 ship from "Unexpected" (ENT) with rear impulse engines, (and torp tube??) no class verbally identified.
2.) The TOS ship with no rear impulse engines, established by Okuda to be D-7 class and verbally mentioned onscreen as D-7 in "Trials + Tribble-ations" (DS9).
3.) TAS cruiser with no rear impulse engines, identical to D-7 exept for protrusions on forward pod and neck. Identified verbally as D-5 class in "Once More Unto the Breach" (DS9).
4.) TMP/TUC/TNG/DS9 cruiser with different forward pod, rear impulse engines and torp tube, and voluminous greeblies and such on hull. Established to be K't'inga class originally in Gene Roddenberry's novelisation, later by Okuda in Encyclopedia and by Sternbach in DS9 Technical Manual, though not as yet spoken onscreen.
5.) Cruiser from "Prophecy" (VGR) explicitly caled D-7 in dialogue, with K't'inga-like features such as rear impulse engines and torp tube.
So, we're in a bit of a muddle. I'd be inclined to say it's the same deal as w/the Miranda, and that the D-7 just has some variants, at least one of which resembles the K't'inga.
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: You forget the Daedalus. Or, to be strictly canonical, the USS Horizon. Although, to be fair, colored photos in the Encyclopedia suggest that the aft ends of those nacelles do, in fact, glow blue.
I didn't forget the Daedalus, we've just never seen a "real" visual effects version of it, just a barely-seen model. Given that Sisko has a model of the never-built Freedom space station, there's no telling how accurate the model is... or if that ship ever actually existed. But, asuming it's an accurate ship, the back glowed so it's pretty irrelevant.
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Re: Drexler's Officers Manual. I think translating the letters that way wasn't such a good choice. That's like having "Constitution class, ship no. 2" in big letters on the side of USS Enterprise (which isn't impossible, of course). I would've thought the letters would mean something like "Klingon Imperial fleet."
By the way, what year was that Officer's Manual published?
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"Hahahahah. I'm told you Liverpoolians like them small, Liam."
By whom? The mad little people of mad world, who
1/ Don't know that it's "Liverpudlian", and 2/ Don't know that I'm from London, and therefore a cockney?
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quote:Originally posted by CaptainMike: Those are both examples of the Okuda-Klingon that doesnt have translations.
BTW, which modification of the K't'inga is that? I dont recall the big Klingon emblem being in TMP or ST:6. Which ep did it get that paint job for?
Actually, that's the TMP model as it was before Trumbull had it redetailed and a lot more stuff put on it.
As to the big Klingon emblem, you never see it from below in TMP, so it was probably always there.
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I had once heard a rumor that the Klingon D-12 Bird of Prey in "Generations" was supposed to be a new model, but to cut costs, the footage of the Bird of Prey from STVI was used instead. Can anyone confirm this?
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), but some of the spoiler titles are getting a little bit out of hang. I don't find anything wrong with this one, but let's not give out any more detail, okay? "ENT OH MY GOD HE'S GAY (spoilers)" for instance is a bit too far.
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