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Aethelwer
Frank G
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Since most of the stuff we�ll talk about has been brought up, let�s move on. I�ve taken the issues from the previous thread and compiled them in the list below. Let me know if there�s anything else to add, or if any of these need explanation (some are obscure). Remember, the point of all this is to talk about commonly argued-about things, whether there be a contradiction in canon or just little-known facts that have to be presented to the world.

- Excelsior-class Lexington
- Apollo design
- Yamato registry
- New Orleans-class/City of New Orleans-class
- 1700 Constitution: class ship?
- Melbourne registry
- Curry/Shelley registry
- Shenandoah registry
- Raman registry
- Ganda/er spelling
- Br*ttain spelling
- Jenol*n spelling
- Bozeman: still in use?
- Constellation: still in use?
- Excelsior: still in use?
- Carolina: class?
- Mayflower: exists?
- Discovery: exists?
- Trial: exists?
- Studio models (Leeds/Trinculo/Valkyrie)
- Admiral Hanson's ship/ships
- Ent-A: Yorktown?
- Intrepid commissioning date
- Low registry ships (Akiras, Phoenix, etc.)
- Phantom Oberth Grissom
- Registry of Fearless
- Number of Galaxies

There�s also some general stuff which probably needs to be covered in more than just a paragraph, and may be beyond the scope of the planned page. If these will be included, only the general gist of the problem(s) will need to be presented.

- Class ships' names being reused
- Lifespan of Mirandas, Oberths, Excelsiors, etc.
- Meaning of NCC, USS, etc. (or lack thereof)
- Attack-fighters

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bryce
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How about the length of the Defiants, Frank?

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What's this phantom Oberth Grissom?

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deadcujo
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City of New Orleans sounds too stupid to be a class name

"Here's your new ship, Captain Blah. The U.S.S. Gumbo, City of New Orleans class."

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Aethelwer
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Bryce: That topic will be dealt with later.

Fabrux: In the first Encyclopedia (in the ship list), there's a Oberth-class Grissom with an NCC-59xxx number that's supposed to be the Excelsior one.

DeadCujo: Tell that to TSN.

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How about using non-canon class names for different types of ships within a class?

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Aethelwer
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[double post]

[This message was edited by The Shadow on May 14, 1999.]


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Aethelwer
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We don't care about non-canon stuff. It just confuses the matter, and has nothing to do with the current project.

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bryce
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Hey Charles, ya think that just for like a week, you could put in a new forum that is just about the length of the Defiant and let me moderate it?

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Some comments-
1. USS Shenandoah
Why is the registry of this ship in dispute? The registry was clearly shown.
2. USS Cochranes
There are two USS Cochranes supposedly-NCC 8000 ("The Drumhead", "The Game") and NCC-59318 ("Emissary"). How is this to be explain? (I am curious-how many of the readers have actually read the ST:TNG Companion.)
3. The original class of the USS Trieste
In an Okudagram from the fourth year (published in issue 16 of the ST:TNG Collector's edition published by Starlog), the class of the USS Trieste is Yosemite. This same okudagram gives the registry of the USS Fearless as NCC-14598.
4. USS Gettysburg
Is the Constellation Class ship still in service in 2375 ("Treachery, Faith, and the Great River")?
Thank you, Trinculo

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The First One
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Remind me about the Jenol*n. I saw "Relics" recently and the Okudagram definitely said Jenolan. I didn't see a name on the model. . . is this just because the Encyclopedia spelt it Jenolen?

And does either spelling of the name mean anything to anyone?


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Elim Garak
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There is quite obviously still a Bozeman in use. There is no way to tell if it is actually the one seen in "Cause and Effect" besides resorting to speculation for or against.

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Aethelwer
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Trinculo: The Shenandoah's registry either ended in 24 or 44, IIRC. Maybe it's time to fire up the ol' big-screen TV again.

Good point about the Cochrane and Trieste. The Fearless registry is interesting. Do you have a scan of the Okudagram?

Lee: Even worse, the model was labelled Jenolin.

Whether ships are still in service is another large topic, although someone could make a list of ships with previously-used names...

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The First One
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My thread about changing ship names has set a train of thought in action. . . I wonder: assuming the Prometheus' registry is truly intentional and it's been in development a long time, could the project have been so secret that a Nebula-class USS Prometheus was commissioned in ignorance? And then, for all we know, it could have been renamed when the actual Prometheus-class prototype was rolled out. . . something to consider.
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The TNG Tech Manual states that while the prototype of the Galaxy class was under construction, she was only refered to as 'NX-70637', and that she didn't have a name yet. It's always been my thought that the name isn't 'officially' given until the ship is commisioned. Remember, the old champaign bottle hitting a ship just as she is launched?

"I christen thee, USS [Ship Name]"

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