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Hmm... did a few test caps, and I don't know if they're that much better than anything we have right now. Here's a quick comparison between the new ones and Chris Spinnler's from Copernicus Ship Yards.
Yes, they are a little bigger and clearer, but it doesn't seem as if there's much we haven't found before. The only thing new I noticed was in the last pic: to the upper left of the 1701-D's saucer, that previously indistinct glob of debris seems to look a little like one of the Enterprise Phase II study models. Thoughts?
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Wow, good 'caps, Millennium. About the ship in question that you think is one of the Excelsior study models...I always thought it was another view (top) of the Chekov. The upper pod above the engineering hull is highlited like in the previous shot of it on the viewscreen.
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Great stuff, very interesting - and thrilling to see the Kyushu in such detail. It's also very intriguing to see the scale of the Freedom saucer, much larger than anticipated. We'd have to say that this is quite a large ship, on a par with the Niagara. And after being about 99% sure the Niagara saucer was elliptical, it has now been 100% confirmed.
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quote: The only thing new I noticed was in the last pic: to the upper left of the 1701-D's saucer, that previously indistinct glob of debris seems to look a little like one of the Enterprise Phase II study models. Thoughts?
I honestly can't see that...however I think we do have a good picture of the Ahwahnee, on the second and third pics, top right corner. It definatly isn't the 4 nacelled excelsior study.
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Now that you mention it, I can see the Cheyenne resemblence. The lower nacelles are really visible.
What about that ship to the right and above of the Enterprise-A saucer in the second pic? It definitely seems more like the sleek Excelsior study model rather than the Springfield. Of course, it could be at a weird angle, too.
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I think I have to agree about the Cheyenne. In the second pic, you can almost see the red stripe around the upper port nacelle.
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quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: Wow, good 'caps, Millennium. About the ship in question that you think is one of the Excelsior study models...I always thought it was another view (top) of the Chekov. The upper pod above the engineering hull is highlited like in the previous shot of it on the viewscreen.
If you mean the one that's below the Enterprise-D in the fourth, fifth, and sixth pics, that's the Challenger-class U.S.S. Buran.
quote:Originally posted by USSMillennium74754: What about that ship to the right and above of the Enterprise-A saucer in the second pic?
This one? The Springfield-class U.S.S. Chekov.
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"Unification, Parts I and II" will be released with Season 5 on November 5. You're welcome to try and enhance/blow these caps up... but they're already zoomed in as far as it'll go without pixelation becoming a problem.
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Great stuff! Thanks a million to SS Millennium!
Yeah, the Firebrand is a big mother all right. And the view (and the nacelle) is definitely ventral, judging by the orientation of the registry. The neck ain't from any Constitution model kit - something out of the Constellation mold sounds quite possible. If this was our last best hope to get more detail, we still lucked out on the bridge superstructure specifics... And the doohickey below the nacelle could be a deflector or a shuttlebay or even a dropship instead of a torp launcher, but there's no way to tell from these pics.
It's a bit surprising that the Kyushu has no shuttlebay. There's nothing between the upper pods, nor on the spine or in the stern. Then again, I've always been the advocate of mission-specific designs and gear: not all missions require a shuttlebay, and the Kyushu apparently isn't tasked with exploring transporter-impermeable planets...
Agreed 100% that the four-naceller is the Ahwahnee and not the Excelsior study model. And the Chekov seems to be the Chekov, too. With the dorsal pod and without the ventral one.
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...Which is I like to believe that SOME sort of shuttlebay was on the dorsal aft of the secondary hull, which was conveniently blown up on the Kyushu.
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Yeah, me too, really. That would also make the ship nicely different from the E-D it otherwise resembles. A stern shuttlebay is characteristic of older ships, and this *is* a predecessor of sorts to the Galaxy class.
One wonders. The former E-D torp launcher doesn't look too much like a torp launcher in this reduced scale - the paint job doesn't suggest any sort of an opening there. The pods thus look more and more like torp launchers. Would they have blackened ("muzzle") aft ends, too?
A cute detail: the former windows in the ten-forward location are apparently transformed into an auxiliary deflector of sorts by application of gold paint. So the former aux.deflector on the saucer underside could in turn be a row of windows on this ship... Custom stuff like that sets Miarecki's ships well apart from the unimaginative Constitution-bashes of the eighties.
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