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iam2xtreme
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What launchdates would these following ships have do you think? I dont want exact stardates just the year.

USS Ambassador NCC-10521
USS Lakota NCC-42768
also ships with the registrys(ies?):
NCC-1930
NCC-8165

Thanks in advance.

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imn working on that as we speek the whole list for dates

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this is what i have so far

YEAR SHIP Stardate Ruffley # of Ships built in year
2245 (April) Uss Enterprise NCC-1701 is Comm. 284.92
2246
2247
2248
2249
2250 (Pike) USS Enterprise 1701 Upgraded
2251
2252
2253
2254
2255 (Kirk) USS Enterprise 1701 Upgraded 2nd time
2256
2257
2258
2259
2260
2261 USS Enterprise 1701 Refitted 1st time
2262
2263
2264
2265
2266
2267
2268
2269
2270
2271 USS Enterprise NCC-1071 is Refitted 2nd time
2272
2273
2274
2275
2276
2277
2278
2279
2280
2281
2282
2283
2284 USS Excelsior NX-2000 Is Comm. 8205.5
2285 8300
2286 USS Enterprise 1701-A is Comm. 8442.5
2287 8500
2288 8600
2289 8700
2290 8800
2291 8900
2292 9000
2293 9100
2294 9200
2295 9300
2296 9400
2297 9500
2298 9600
2299 9700
2300 9800
2301 9900
2302 10000
2303 11000
2304 12000
2305 13000
2306 14000
2307 15000
2308 16000
2309 17000
2310 18000
2311 19000
2312 20000
2313 21000
2314 22000
2315 23000
2316 24000
2317 25000
2318 26000
2319 27000
2320 28000
2321 29000
2323 30000
2324 31000
2325 32000/0000 Stardate is changed
2326 1000
2327 2000
2328 3000
2329 4000
2330 5000
2331 6000
2332 7000
2333 8000
2334 9000
2335 10000
2336 11000
2337 12000
2338 13000
2339 14000
2340 15000
2341 16000
2342 17000
2343 18000
2344 19000
2345 20000
2346 21000
2345 22000
2346 23000
2347 24000
2348 25000
2349 26000
2350 27000
2351 28000
2352 29000
2353 30000
2354 31000
2355 32000
2356 33000
2357 USS Galaxy NX-70637 is Comm. 34000 70762
2358 35000 70887
2359 36000 71013
2360 37000 71138
2361 38000 71263
2362 39000 71388
2363 USS Enterprise 1701-D Is Comm. 40759.5 71513
2364 41000 71638
2365 42000 71763
2366 43000 71888 39 Starship Destroyed
2367 USS Southerland NCC-72015 is Comm. 44820.5 72020 Massive Starship Build up Begins
2368 45000 73110
2369 46000 73305
2370 USS Defiant NX-74205 is Comm. 47538.5 74430
2371 USS Voyager NCC-74656 is Comm. 48546.2 74881
2372
2373
2374
2375
2376
2377
2378
2379
2380
2381
2382
2383
2384
2385
2386
2387
2388

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As on my class list, and the calculations I've made:

Ambassador NCC-10521- approximately 2302
Lakota NCC 42768 - approximately 2333

NCC 1930 - approximately 2264
NCC 8165 - approximately 2395 ??

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I'd agree that post-2300 registries could go roughly like "last two digits of year of launch = first two digits of registry minus ten". Perhaps there was even a big makeover of the system where NCC-10000 was made to coincide with the turn of the century, and the registries then proceeded in batches of 1000 per year... That allows for NCC-57000 in 2347, to satisfy the backstory of the Renegade. And it also agrees with the Galaxy launch dates, assuming the other, 71000-range ships were launched within a few years of NCC-1701-D.

But you can't make me believe in chronologically organized TOS registries. I'd count everything up to NCC-9999 as nonchronological - at most, things in the 8000 range would probably but not necessarily be from the 2280s or the 2290s. To believe otherwise would mean I'd have to give up FJ and SotSF, and to think that Oberths were older than Constitutions. No thanks.

The highest four-digit regos in canon (save for a few Excelsiors) are either Constellations or Denevas, in the 3000 and 6000 ranges, respectively. We know the Constellations are from the 2280s-90s (since NX-1974 was still doing test runs by the time of ST6), even if we know nothing of the age of the Denevas. What sort of ship would this NCC-8165 be?

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2395? for a ship from the stargazer era? But thanks red admiral. and Akira. You helped a lot.

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im sorry but the 8000 and stuff is the Stardate not the Registry

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Thanks to you Timo too. The NCC-1930 is the registry from a miranda class model i'm making with custom decals i bought from federation models, the USS Nero. The NCC-8165 is the registry of a kitbash i'm making using the same decals, which i'm calling the Triumphant class USS Legacy. Think of a Miranda class with the nacelles on top and external hull changes. I'm trying my best to make it look credible, not lame like most kitbashes.

forgot to add that the reason i want his info is because i'm witing backstorys for all my models.

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Don't forget the Victory, with a registry of 9xxx.

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From my personal list and calculations that I've worked out (and probably should be reworked sometime), I get the following:

USS Ambassador NX-10521 - 2300
USS Lakota NCC-42768 - 2330
NCC-1930 - 2269 or 2270
NCC-8165 - 2298

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Ambassador in 2300 or 2302? are you serious? didnt the TNG tM establish a date (possibly one that made some sense?)
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ok just chekced that.. seems there wasnt a date in the Ambassador reference..

but 2300? thats only a few years after TUC/Generations.. a ship like Ambassador, like the Galaxy, probably took decades to plan, and i dont see it coming out of the 2270-80s...

i place it at 2320, halfway between the Excelsior and the Galaxy.. just seems to make more sense. besides, i dont see the registries jumping to 10000 anytime before some time into the 24th century either.

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Thanks everyone. The Ambassador i always assumed was from the first decade of the 24th centruy. I just wanted to make sure because most of you guys have a better grasp on this kind of things than i do.

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NX-10xxx or not, the Ambasador cannot be that old. I'd have said something between 2310 and 20, probably closer to 2320. If the ship's registry really is 10xxx, why would any other Ambassador have a registry in the 26xxx's? Either good old Okuda was wrong or the original Ambassador looked totally different from the ships we've seen (probably refits in this case.)

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i also think the Ambassadors tech is most likely post-2320.

And why would they build the 24th century's first large explorer class before the Excelsior had even been proven?

BTW, there are a few other 10xxx Ambassadors.. the Horatio i believe.

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