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Mark Nguyen
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Just want to say that I would KILL to have Rick write something about the Prometheus. He designed it, I am sure, with 1970s giant robot anime in mind. [Smile] An article with his design sketches for teh Prommie would make my year.

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BTW, it only says those decks arent 'rated for habitation'.. not that they are completely uninhabitable.. maybe they are on minimum life support, since there are no manned crew stations on them

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Timo
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Or "habitation" could be synonymous with "accommodation". That is, there are no permanent quarters for any of the personnel on those lower decks. All decks cleared for "habitation" include at least one permanent bunk for a crew member (perhaps just the shuttle hangar door operator guy on deck 10, but nevertheless) plus the basic living amenities like water, light, muzak and Orion girls.

The rest of the decks still have gravity, air and heat, but people only go there to work. Or to perform private activities.

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Yes, that's what I took it to mean too. Not "unihabitable" just that there were no living quarters on those decks. The lower decks are probably dedicated 100% to ship's operations without living amenities.

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Didn't it say that crew-quarters were restricted to decks 2 and 3?

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Aban Rune
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I think it said "Concentrated in"

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BTW, ive just done some layout and square footage calculations, and theres no way in hell that 500+ people could live in the smallest decks of the ship.
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It's odd that Picard would call 500+ crew "undermanned".

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*sigh* He didn't. He said the ship was overworked and underpowered.

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Just out of foreignah curiosity... What does "overworked" mean? That too much work has been done on something, so the end result is not very good? Or that something constantly requires lots and lots of work? Come on, baby, be my Webster's!

I could easily see how just about any 23rd century vessel would be considered labor-intensive in the 24th. Also, it's possible a starship requires more labor after a century of service than it did originally - although it seems that old ship types actually operate with smaller crews in the 24th, considering how low the crew-per-ship figure on Wolf 359 losses is, and how many of the ships lost are either these older types, or then huge vessels that should have crews much larger than the average obtained.

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In the context of Picard's comment, "overworked" means that more was being demanded of the ship than it was designed to do. Perhaps the missions it was engaged in required it to travel farther or faster than it was supposed to go. Perhaps it needed to generate more power than it was designed to generate. Basically, he was indicating that he felt the ship was being pushed to her limits which would have a taxing effect on the superstructure and most likely the systems.

This has been your lesson in American Vernacular English for the day. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Peregrinus:
*sigh* He didn't. He said the ship was overworked and underpowered.

Shit, that's the second time I've stuffed up in this thread. [Embarrassed]

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I didn't read through all the text (reading text on a computer screen still being one of those things that I do often, but don't necessarily relish), but isn't the crew compliment given for the Constellation at the time of the launch of the class, and thus not necessarily representative of how many people were aboard the Stargazer half a century or more later?
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Harry
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IIRC, the Miranda class Lantree, downgraded to a mere freighter, had a crew of only about 25.

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Yeah, 26 crew. I so completely disagree with that! It's an 11 deck ship with 26 crew members from presumably all departments, except maybe science. With a normal 3-shift rotation, that means under normal operations there's approximately 8 people running the ship at any given time, right? Someone didn't think that through. I think the writers/producers get jittery having to say 300-500 people died at once. Easier on viewers if it's a lower number or something.

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