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Shik
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The first NCO I can remember is the then-Mrs. Shatner as Chief DiFalco, Ilia's replacement in TMP.

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PsyLiam
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quote:
Originally posted by Middy Seafort:

An army fella once told me that there are two things in life an army boy could never understand:
Navy ranks and British money.

Was this person slightly retarted when it came to adding stuff up?

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Hopefully it wasn't a reference to the current monetary system in Great Britain, considering that it's the same as in the US, except that the names are different (and the values, if you're converting). If it's a reference to the old system, I can understand. Yay, shillings.
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quote:
Originally posted by Shik:
The first NCO I can remember is the then-Mrs. Shatner as Chief DiFalco, Ilia's replacement in TMP.

Uh...Rand? [Roll Eyes]

-MMoM [Big Grin]

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Shik
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"Yeoman" is not a rank or grade, but rather a title like "transporter chief" or "assistant manager in charge of personnel."

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Yeoman (YN)is a enlisted rate in the Navy. Like my rate is AME or Aviation Structural Mechanic Safety Equipment. Therefore she is enlisted in TOS.
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Shik
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When the triple fucking damn did that happen?

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PsyLiam
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quote:
Originally posted by TSN:
If it's a reference to the old system, I can understand. Yay, shillings.

Good thing the US doesn't do anything like that. Yay, yards.

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Shik
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And yet it's still called the English standard.

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Well, if it were called the American Standard, people would always be confusing a shitty measurement system with a shit disposal system.

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quote:
Originally posted by PsyLiam:
Was this person slightly retarted when it came to adding stuff up?

Retarted? This implies the person was a tart previously, and is once again!

Retarded, on the other hand... [Big Grin]

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If you really want to get into how Starfleet is unlike the regular US Navy then take a look at Commander Riker's beard and Captain Sisko's goatee. That would never been allowed in the US Navy

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Hello, all.

Re: Navy Ranks and British Money

I assume he could add stuff, but he was refering to the currency system of shillings, half-farthings, and two pences (the old system before the Euro) as a joke.

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If you really want to get into how Starfleet is unlike the regular US Navy then take a look at Commander Riker's beard and Captain Sisko's goatee. That would never been allowed in the US Navy

That and Riker's refusal of a command I]three[/I] times would have killed his career. Even once would've killed his career. Also, no one in the military stays at a posting for over 15 years or in a position for over 15 years unless there's a problem. (Spolier removed after--my apologies for a greivous error.)

Middy Seafort

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Two things: One, well-kept facial hair is permitted in most wet navies today, I think. And two, the aforementioned description of the British monetary system is so ignorant and out-to-lunch I shall shut up and leave either Lee or Liam to make a cutting remark.

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quote:
Originally posted by Middy Seafort:
I assume he could add stuff, but he was refering to the currency system of shillings, half-farthings, and two pences (the old system before the Euro) as a joke.

I think you mean before decimalisation, which was in 1970/71, as we still haven't joined the Euro.

The old system was slightly confusing but boiled down to:
1 pound = 20 shillings = 240 pence (so 1 shilling = 12 pence)

When we moved to the decimal system the pound stayed the same, but we replaced shillings and old pence with new pence so that 1 pound = 100 pence. And that's the system we use today.

A farthing was a quarter of an old penny and was withdrawn from use in 1961. I don't think there was ever a half-farthing.

Any other funny terms (such as florin or crown) are just amounts of shillings or pence (2 shillings for the florin, 5 shillings for the crown) and aren't any different to those strange US terms dime and nickel. [Razz]

Oh and to get really confusing there was also a guinea which was one pound and one shilling. But since 1813 that's only been used as the amount or prize money in horse races.

And I typed all this for a system that died a few yars before I was born? I must be mad.

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