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Sol System
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Are you OK?
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quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
There's more confusion with Kwan:
Lt. Nara said, that Kwan knew the Enterprise better than most people because he helped build it back at Utopia Planitia.
Troi said that Kwan arrived at Utopia Planitia six months after Finn's death.
Beverly said that Finn was reported missing at stardate 40987.2.

You see the problem with that?

BTW, the whole thing was a freakin hallucination from beginning to end, wasnt it? does that make the service records not real too?
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IIRC, Ms. Troi was in charge of crew evaluations. The records may be elements of her memory from reviewing the records. This could account for the errors, ex. a crewman posted to three starships on the same date.
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i thought of that too.. what a cheat explanation.. basically, it gives us the excuse to explain away discontinuities we find in any dates we find in the unreal portion of the episode
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My guess for the third name for Salvatore Bruno is NILS BOHR (the physicist).
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I think that's a good guess.

I am adding these ships to my list.
As for the questionable ships, I have them listed as Umizadu and Sullivan. (I see an u not an e or an i.)

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quote:
Originally posted by CaptainMike:
i thought of that too.. what a cheat explanation.. basically, it gives us the excuse to explain away discontinuities we find in any dates we find in the unreal portion of the episode

Well, er, yeah. Don't you kinda have to? Unless you also have all the details in "Parallels" or "Frame of Mind" as being truthful and canon too.

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thats what i'm saying.. of course the events were unreal..

the computer displays however, are probably slightly accurate, but still, moot since they never appeared in a 'real' milieu.

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Well, "Parallels" wasn't, strictly speaking, unreal, it just involved multiple lines of reality.
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Yeah, but anything that happened in the other timelines cannot be presumed to be true in the "real" timeline.
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No, of course. But, I'm just saying, "real" might be a term on loose footing when we're talking about more than one reality.
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I'd say they're all equally real. We didn't see 'm much, but they're there, superimposed along with our own and every other version of Reality.
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This is the e-mail I sent Okuda:

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Mr. Okuda,

I was glad to receive your reply on my previous queries, and another issue has recently come up on which I would greatly appreciate your insight.
With the release of the boxed-set DVDs of Star Trek: The Next Generation over the past year, fans are getting a clearer and closer look at the shows than ever before. Because of this, we are beginning to examine in detail many of the displays and graphics created by you and your colleagues at the Art Department for the show. More and more we can be treated to the little �in-jokes� or clever details that were incorporated into these screens.
Of particular interest at the moment are several personnel files that were displayed in the 7th-season episode �Eye of the Beholder.� They were not a main focus of the episode, but were visible enough to be at least partially read by viewers of the DVD. Among the information included in the files are the former and current postings of the individual Starfleet officers displayed. These include the names of several ships and Starfleet institutions.
Could you help to decipher the vessel names in each of these displays? See below.

Pictures 1-3:
http://www.cdeath.net/monkeyofmim/displays/finn.jpg
http://www.cdeath.net/monkeyofmim/displays/kwan.jpg
http://www.cdeath.net/monkeyofmim/displays/pacelli.jpg

As you can see, these images are quite clear, having been shown in closer proximity to the camera in the episode. The starships listed are:
-SILVERSIDES (perhaps named for the World War II submarine?)
-ENTERPRISE
-SEAVIEW (a reference to �Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea�?)
-PUEBLO (after the U.S. ship seized by the Koreans?)
-SYRACUSE (for the Greek city that was Archimedes� home, or for something else?)
-PHILADELPHIA

Picture 4:
http://www.cdeath.net/monkeyofmim/displays/eckridge.jpg

This one and the others are much harder to read. The listed vessels are:
-ENTERPRISE
-The second name appears to be NORTHRIDGE. Is this correct? (If so, I presume it was named for the city in southern California where the earthquake occurred some years ago?)

Picture 5:
http://www.cdeath.net/monkeyofmim/displays/pierce.jpg

I can barely read this one at all. Listed ships are:
-ENTERPRISE
-I can�t read this one, but it looks like it could be something like �EMIDAZO� or �UMIDAZO� or something. Would you per chance remember what it might�ve been?
-This one is also very hard to read but it could be SULEIMAN or SULLIVAN. Does either name ring a bell?
-CHICAGO (at least that�s what it looks like to me)

Picture 6:
http://www.cdeath.net/monkeyofmim/displays/salvatore.jpg

Another hard-to-read one. Listed ships appear to be:
-DONOVAN (what�s the source of this name?)
-ENTERPRISE
-I can�t quite make this one out. An acquaintance suggested it might be NILS BOHR, for the physicist, but I�m not sure.

Picture 7:
http://www.cdeath.net/monkeyofmim/displays/wallace.jpg

This one seems to be decently clear. Names are:
-ENTERPRISE
-SEAQUEST (nifty little reference, by the way)
-BATON ROUGE

Picture 8:
http://www.cdeath.net/monkeyofmim/displays/ziff.jpg

This one appears to have a running gag of ships named after �Cheers� characters!
-ENTERPRISE
-MALONE (as in Sam Malone)
-PETERSON (as in Norm Peterson)
-CLAYVIN (as in Cliff Clavin? I don�t think there should be a �Y� in there, but I�m assuming that�s what you meant given the above two)

It�s interesting to note that several of these individual�s careers included winning �Okuda Awards�! That�s cute. It�s kind of cool to know that stuff in the 24th century will be named for you, isn�t it?

Anyway, here�s to hoping you may be able to clear up the confusion around the uncertain names. Thanks for your time!

-Kristofer B. Olinger

I will let y'all know what he says when I receive a reply.

-MMoM [Big Grin]

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Why you guys bothering him again. Leave him alone. Like he remembers.

Actually he might. He probably is writing a reply now and will write some article or something like that.

You guys need to buy him a beer, or take him to a strip bar or something in appreciation.

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Actually, Okuda has a pretty good record (second only to Sternbach, who will probably reply to a query within 24 hours if it's by e-mail) of taking an interest in fans' questions and doing his very best to answer them. I've corresponded with him several times, and he doesn't ever sound like he's annoyed at receiving the inquiry.

I know that he doesn't have the time to track obscure info down, but with something like these displays, I wouldn't be surprised if the visual cue would cause him to remember if any of those names are correct/incorrect.

-MMoM [Big Grin]

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