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Spike
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Did you receive an answer from Okuda?

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There was some talk earlier about how the stardates for the ships listed with these crew members were so close together, and in the case of Kwan, the USS Enterprise, USS Seaview and USS Pueblo were all the same stardate. I believe I have a plausible explanation:

These people were assigned to the Utopia yards, so that was their job. The ship listing above was the starships each officer was assigned to for whatever their particular engineering specialty was. In some cases that would mean they would work on one starship, and then a while later be assigned to another ship in the yard. In Kwan's case, he was a specialist in Warp engine control systems, and was no doubt assigned that task on three starships simultaneously. (He probably got used to travel pod trips!)

Sound reasonable folks?

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I have received no reply as yet, but I have in the past found that it can often take a month or more for Okuda to reply to such a query as this. Presumably, this is because a) he's a busy man, and b) he may be taking time to look through old notes, etc.

Give it a little more time.

-MMoM [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by SoundEffect:
These people were assigned to the Utopia yards, so that was their job. The ship listing above was the starships each officer was assigned to for whatever their particular engineering specialty was. In some cases that would mean they would work on one starship, and then a while later be assigned to another ship in the yard. In Kwan's case, he was a specialist in Warp engine control systems, and was no doubt assigned that task on three starships simultaneously. (He probably got used to travel pod trips!)

Sound reasonable folks?

Sounds good to me, thats is basically what i assumed, most sense ive seen any make on here in a while. [Cool]

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I haven't read the whole thread but did anyone notice this:

http://www.cdeath.net/monkeyofmim/displays/finn.jpg

SFA: 40591.5
Born: 40004.5

One has to assume that some time between then is when they changed the Stardate system. Otherwise - she was quite advanced to graduate from the Academy at 6 months! [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Brown_supahero:
Why you guys bothering him again. Leave him alone. Like he remembers.

Actually he might. He probably is writing a reply now and will write some article or something like that.

You guys need to buy him a beer, or take him to a strip bar or something in appreciation.

Will a calendar do? "Women Star Trek Fans of the Internet" [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by AndrewR:
I haven't read the whole thread but did anyone notice this:

http://www.cdeath.net/monkeyofmim/displays/finn.jpg

SFA: 40591.5
Born: 40004.5

Since all of the files we see have very similar numbers on them for birth dates, I'm assuming those aren't stardates at all, but some other code for their date of birth. If they were stardates, all those crewmembers would've been born in 2363. Just not possible. Everything else about the files seems to make sense, so I assume they didn't just 'get it wrong' on that one.

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10004.5 would work for the Star Date of Births.

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Or the stardate system acts like our time zones. A planet may have a different stardate than a starship. We have seen this canonically. Tuvok was born on 38774, in the year 2264, on a Vulcan colony. In that same year, the starship Enterprise had stardates in the 1000 to 2000 range.
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quote:
Originally posted by newark:
Tuvok was born on 38774, in the year 2264, on a Vulcan colony.

What episode revealed the number 38774? Was it attributed as a stardate, or perhaps a year that had some significance to planet Vulcan?

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"Unimatrix, Part 2"
Identified as a stardate.

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Erh.

38774 would place his date of birth three years before TNG's first season, Federation Standard Time.

2264 doesn't mix with Janeway's "approaching the big three" comment, Federation Standard Time.

Time to hail Houston, no?

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As I attempted to explain earlier, there is canonical evidence in the films and episodes which doesn't support the contention I see implied here.

The contention I see is this-Stardates are a form of 24th century time piece. They tell time for the crew of a starship or the populace of a planet. Like our time system (whose name eludes me), their time shows progression by increments of the smallest unit to the largest unit. The belief I see being written is that the stardates are the same no matter where you are in the Federation. From the films and episodes, I see evidence which is contrary to this hypothesis.

Evidence:
*"Where No Man Has Gone Before". Elizabeth Dehner and Gary Mitchell are born on stardates 1089.5 and 1087.7, respectively. Their births occured on an unknown world.

*"The Battle". After the battle of Maxia Zeta in 2354, Captain Picard records a log entry on stardate 40877.30.

*"The Child". A plama plague strikes Obi VI on stardate 38325 in the year 2296.

*"Dark Page". The log entries for Ambassador Troi start on 36000 in the 2330's on Betazoid.

*"Unification, Part 2". Tuvok is born on a Vulcan colony on stardate 38774 in the year 2264.

Adding the latest entry from the episode in question, we have too many pieces of evidence which show the current hypothesis is in error and we may need to modify our thinking on the matter.

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Why are you refering to yourself in the third person?

Oh...

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