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If we haven't seen production sketches of Tholians by now, we will never, ever see them. Because they don't exist.
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Says in the Encyclopedia Deux that the few shots on the Enterprise main viewer which the above photo is from used visual effects and a puppet designed by Mike Minor which was the facted head (or helmet) of Commander Loskene.
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The freaky colors could have been a result of poor reception on the Enterprise's part (lots of hard rads on the Tholian ships IIRC.
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Did the puppet move or did it's mouth/beak move/line move?
Also if they prefer such heat you can infer things about their homeworld... What was the temperature? Was it hot enough that liquid water couldn't exist on the surface of the planet?
Could they be silicon based or another element-based life forms? Nitrogen based?
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And I don't think the puppet demonstrated any articulated parts, but I could be wrong. I think I only ever saw the episode once.
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Ah, but, to get all crazy lingual, radioactive does not (at least, according to a free online dictionary, and I suppose information is worth what you pay for it) simply mean "radiating energy," but rather the specific kind of energy associated with atomic decay!
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quote: TSN Well, heat is radiation, technically...
Not quite, unless you mean infrared/thermal energy/radiation.
Quick definitions:
The astronomical definition of radiation is a form of energy transport consisting of electromagnetic waves traveling at the speed of light.
The biological definition of radiation, as well as conduction, and convection are all processes in which an object gains or loses heat, or in other words, the way heat travels from or through one object to another. So technically it isn't heat, its the tranportation of heat...
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Radiation is when an object gains heat through exposure to intense radiant energy or to any surface that is warmer than its own surface temperature.
Conduction is a direct transfer of heat between two objects in contact with each other.
Convection requires moving air or water to transfer heat, involving the process of conduction.
[NOTE - this has been heavily modified because this was getting too severely complicated to explain in a manner fitting to the above posts.]
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quote: AndrewR Did the puppet move or did it's mouth/beak move/line move? Also if they prefer such heat you can infer things about their homeworld... What was the temperature? Was it hot enough that liquid water couldn't exist on the surface of the planet?
The puppet moved very slightly...like from side to side, but barely noticable.
Also, I believe that it was stated that the Tholian ship in Enterprise has an internal temperature in excess or at least 200� but not in a specified heat measurement system (�F, �C, K).
If it was 200�C, which is 2x boiling, then water would not exist in liquid form on their homeworld (as it would be evaporated).
If it was 200�F or 93�C then it is possible that water exists on their homeworld, but extremely near to boiling (212�F = boiling).
If it was 200K (or -73�C or -100�F) then everything would be frozen, which does not seem to fit what we allready know about the Tholians.
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Almost certainly centigrade.
Hmm, I wonder what keeps tholian silk from not burning up/melting. This also suggests that in order for them to be in a "normal" human tolerable environment like the tholian ambassador visiting DS9, for example, they would need to wear some type of environmental suit, like the Breen.
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