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AndrewR
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Remember that fragment of a ship that we see float past the Defiant in the Borg Battle during First Contact? OK this might be old - but I was flipping throught the TNG movie sketch book - packed with John Eaves' crappy drawings. Anyway there is this nice - unseen looking ship there by Tom Goodson?? anyway I then flipped the page to that label from beer? with Zephram Cochrane's facee on it. Theh little fragment piece of ship is on there. I reckon that the fragment is from this lovely looking ship - we never saw.

Anyone have a scan of that ship - the line drawing?

Andrew

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Here's a colored version.

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I don�t think it�s the same, the escapepods are wrong. Here�s my version

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Jason Abbadon
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It's a chunk of the Zandura: a Alex Yeager design that never was completely built for the film.
http://neutralzone.future.easyspace.com/indexfra.htm
Cool design too IMHO. [Wink]

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Mleh, doesn't match up to the Zandura if you ask me, at least not based on the sketch. There aren't any escape pods or the raised section at the front. The curve of the saucer is also more rounded on the debris. I think it's part of a different ship that we haven't seen.

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/pubimage.asp?id_=1867234

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Harry
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I don't think it was designed as anything more than 'generic Starfleet debris'.

[ March 18, 2003, 12:22 AM: Message edited by: Harry ]

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Jason Abbadon
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huh.
With a name like "generic starfleet debris" you'd think it'd be an Oberth.

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I'm pretty sure Harry's correct. I don't think it was ever supposed to be anything specific... just a chunk of debris with identifiable Starfleet markings.

Oh... and I have also always thought the Goodson was a descent design. I nominate Reverend to flesh that puppy out. [Smile]

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I thought that the ship(s) posted by Starship Freak and Harry is/are the early Endeavour-drawings whereas this one from the sketch book shows the 'Real' Zandura. (Taken from TNZ Starship Database, don't have my scanner installed at the moment [Wink] ). Look at the ship's registry: 7105. The Endeavour's is 71805. Probably the same type of error we had with the Akira-drawings (the four digit registry the fact files corrected to a 5-digit registry to use as the 'actual' number of the USS Akira). The name Zandura is written down in the upper left corner of this image, allthough the ship itself doesn't have a name/number.

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Two things:

1) Who made that site Jason linked to, and
2) Why are they using my schematic of the Zandura without my permission? [Mad]

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Funny thing, I always assumed that fragment was the top of a saucer or something - yet now I look at it and it looks more like the underside of something. . .

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Well that NCC-1705 thing up there is gorgeous, does it have a name?

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This has been covered several time before, I'm sure, and it's pretty definite that the wreckage matches up with NEITHER of the sketches. I still don't know why people keep associating it with the Zandura.

As to the other sketch, is that a name above the registry number? On the scan it's impossible to make out, but is it any clearer in the actual book? I didn't think this design was ever associated with the name Endeavour. Eaves did the would-be Endeavour's design.

Alex: Maybe I'm misinterpreting you, but if you're trying to say that the sketch might have been the source for the Endeavour's registry number as we know it, you'd be mistaken. It had already been given on the tachyon detection grid display several years before in "Redemption" (TNG).

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"1) Who made that site Jason linked to..."

Well, judging by the e-mail links at the bottom of the pages, it seems to have been made by one Captain Cabac.

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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by Topher:
Two things:

1) Who made that site Jason linked to, and
2) Why are they using my schematic of the Zandura without my permission? [Mad]

The line drawing?!?
Nice.
Did you ever make rear or forward views?
If you dd (do) I'll build the ship as a physical model to go with my fleet.
I always liked that design.
Where do you think it seperates? In the middle so each half has nacelles woyld be by guess. [Wink]

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