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Okay, we've all seen various starship lists around here, but I don't *think* I've seen any list to include the designers of the ships, or the first and last dates that we've seen them. I would like to try to put together such a list. Now, this wouldn't include every alien-of-the-week ship we've seen, but I would like to have the major ship designs (Klingons, Romulans, etc.), plus shuttles and starbases.
Here's a start, just from memory (correct me if I'm wrong here):
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Class: Constitution Designer(s): Matt Jeffries Date(s) designed: 1966? Date 1st seen: 1967 Date last seen: 1969 ST date 1st seen: 2267 ST date last seen: 2269
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Class: Galaxy Designer(s): Andrew Probert Date(s) designed: Date 1st seen: 1987 Date last seen: ST date 1st seen: ST date last seen:
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The dates last seen might be self defeating, though - you never know when the ship will appear again. For example, how would you record the appearance of the E-nil from "Trials and Tribble-ations"?
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For most, this won't be a problem, since we're not dealing with the TNG era anymore. I'll probably put a disclaimer saying "current as of XXX", just in case. The NX class would probably be listed as 2004+ or something.
As for the Constitution, that one episode I'm going to treat as a special case, since it really doesn't fit the mold. How about " Last seen 1969/1996* " ? (BTW, I'm going to put the refit in a separate entry.)
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If you're talking about the design of the E-nil, then doesn't the appearance (as a model) in Nemesis also count?
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It's far from being complete, especially on the corresponding Trek dates. And there's probably many more classes to include as well.
Harry: No, I wouldn't count that. I would generally stick to the appearance of a full-fledged ship, but that doesn't mean I can't contradict myself later!
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"The Man Trap" was the first aired ep with the Ent-nil which was on Sept 8, 1966 - "The Cage" never aired.
The rest of your dates are weird in a wrong kind of way. "Balance of Terror" - Dec 13, '66; "Space Seed " is right; might want to mention the GALILEO SHUTTLECRAFT seen in "The Galileo Seven" - Jan 5, '67; "Space Seed" - Feb 16, '67; the Klingon D7 actually aired first as a Romulan ship in "The Enterprise Incident" - Sept 27, '68 and later as a Klingon ship in "Day of the Dove" - Nov. 1, '68 (and if I am wrong about that, then "Elaan of Troyius" - Dec. 20, '68); also the K'tinga and D-7 are different models and so the K'tinga ought to be Dec. 7, '79 as in TMP.
The Constellation was first seen in "The Battle" (w/o Nov 16, '87); the BORG CUBE was first seen in "Q Who?" (w/o May 8, '89); the FERENGI POD first seen in "The Price" (w/o Nov. 13, '89), the ROMULAN SCOUT first seen in "The Defector" (w/o Jan. 1, '90); the Nebula, first seen in "The Wounded" (w/o Jan 28, '91); the SOYUZ in "Cause and Effect" (w/o Mar. 23, '92); the SYDNEY in "Relics" (w/o Oct. 12, '92). The last OBERTH was likely the one seen in Generations (or was there one in First Contact?).
Also, the Intrepid-type and "Iceland"-type were also first seen in "The Expanse" as well....
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I was wondering about "The Cage". I guess that answers that.
Mind telling me where your dates are from? I don't have my books with me, so I'm gleaning them from gateworld.net right now [edit: I just confimed BoT as 12/15/66 from startrek.com]. (And what does w/o stand for?)
As for the Nebula, I know about "The Wounded", but I can't make up my mind whether to include its prototype seen in BOBW in that listing.
quote:Originally posted by F.G.: "The Man Trap" was the first aired ep with the Ent-nil which was on Sept 8, 1966 - "The Cage" never aired.
Well... not entirely true. "The Cage" first aired more than 20 years later, during the 2nd season of TNG (remember that writers' strike?)
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quote:Originally posted by Dat: Weren't Norway, St(r)eamrunner, and Saber/Sabre also done by Jaeger?
Indeed.
Eaves made the Dominion battlecruiser and battleships: I dont know who made the "bug".
I thought Eaves was involved with manking the NX.
Eaves also made the RBOP from Enterprise and (I think) the Ent KBOP Duras died in.
YOu can credit/blame Okuda and Miracki for the BOBW shipbashes. No idea whi takes the fall for the DS9 kitbashes though.
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