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It looks like the physical model... at least with the deflector dish.
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If the Yellowstone exists in the real timeline, I'd venture to say it was the Danube design with the pod and Intrepid-like nacelles... just to differentiate it from the sensor-podded Danube.
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And all they ever did was just either use the Danube model or of Danube stock footage. Yes Okuda did create a graphic using the design of the Danube, but I'd like to ignore that as well. Would rather see a ship and immediately be able to say it's either a Danube or a Yellowstone without having to first question and then check the sensors to see what type of warp engine it has.
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quote:Originally posted by Dat: If the Yellowstone exists in the real timeline, I'd venture to say it was the Danube design with the pod and Intrepid-like nacelles... just to differentiate it from the sensor-podded Danube.
What Danube ever had Intrepid-like nacelles (presumably more Intrepid-like than the already Intrepid-like nacelles the Danube has)?
And those shots have just reminded me how much I used to love the effort the shows SFX guys went to to ensure that all the reg details on the runabouts were prementantly in shadow, so that no-one would ever realise that we were just seeing the Rio Grande over and over again.
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It's pretty smart to do that- how many shots of the ship cruising through space would they really need anyway?
At least they went all out when the script called for it: the chase scenes/ hiding in the Kieber Belt from Treachery, Faith and the Great River are among my favorite VFX scenes in the series.
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I was just saying that if there was a real Yellowstone class, it should have nacelles with design influences from the Intrepid, so it looks a little different from the Danube.
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A Runabout with Intrepid-like nacelles would be a monstrosity though.
Better to just claim it had bio-neural bullshit inside (thus making it "intrepid-like").
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The runabout-nacelles were far more intrepid-like than anything else. The blue-glowy bit (my brain isn't working at the moment) only going part of the way back rather than all the way around, and the angular nature of it all make the engines look more like Voyager's than the Enterprise-D.
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Keep in mind though that there was a discrepancy in the time line due to Harry being on Earth when Voyager took off.
Do we know for sure what was altered as a result. Harry knows when he started to remember differences, but everything else may have been altered from what it had been longer term. My assumption with the episode is that Harry is actually the designer of the Runabout (since he never was assigned for starship duty) and since the Danube never happened (at least not at the same time, and not at Utopia Planitia, but rather on Earth), the first Runabout had several differences to the one we all know; mainly the engine thingy. It just happened to be called the Yellowstone instead of the Danube. That's plausible I think.
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Alternately, the whole episode was just another mental fugue, and never happened in reality. It's got all the correct elements, after all.
Harry gets to meet Libby again, and can show that he's "past" her, even though she certainly isn't "past" him. He gets to "convert" his buddy Tom from evil to good. In this reality, he is an important and skilled Starfleet player who gets to one-up the stupid admirals who never believed in him. It's sooo perfectly unreal that a shape-shifting runabout whose Kim-designed special features save the day is just icing on the cake.
Think of it as a mental severing of ties with Earth, with nothing but bodies and burned bridges left in Kim's wake.
quote:Originally posted by SoundEffect: Keep in mind though that there was a discrepancy in the time line due to Harry being on Earth when Voyager took off.
Do we know for sure what was altered as a result. Harry knows when he started to remember differences, but everything else may have been altered from what it had been longer term. My assumption with the episode is that Harry is actually the designer of the Runabout (since he never was assigned for starship duty) and since the Danube never happened (at least not at the same time, and not at Utopia Planitia, but rather on Earth), the first Runabout had several differences to the one we all know; mainly the engine thingy. It just happened to be called the Yellowstone instead of the Danube. That's plausible I think.
I don't believe that. If indeed the only changes in the timeline that exist are based around Harry Kim not getting a position on Voyager, then the Danube does exist and the Yellowstone is an offshoot of it, so to say. I say this because 1) Danubes were first commissioned in 2368, and Harry graduated from SFA on the eve of 2371. So he could not have designed the runabout, per say, because it would have been already lauched around the end of his freshman year. 2) Harry didn't design the whole ship, as his cohort, Lt. Lasca, clearly said: "I'd like to introduce you to the engineer who designed these new warp engines...".
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But who is to say that the Yellowstone runabout wasn't built around those new warp engines, rather than the other way around?
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Is there any mention of a Yellowstone-class? They mention a new type of engines and the name of the ship, USS Yellowstone. It's obviuos that Starfleet gave him a Runabout to install his newly developed engines, nothing more. They didn't rename the Excelsior and Galaxy ship classes after Kosinski had some fun with their engines, either.
Besides that, even if the term Yellowstone-class is used, maybe it's just some sort of insider designation. Sounds better than "That modified Danube-class" or "The Runabout with the new engines".
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Harry did show a MSD-type display that did say Yellowstone class, IIRC. If not, then it had USS Yellowstone along with an NX registry. So it was not a subclass or variant within the Danube class.
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