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Here's one for all you experts at telling physical and CGI models apart. I was watching the DS9 seventh season opener, "Image in the Sand," the other day and noticed this shot of a Galaxy-class ship docked at the station. Something about it (particularly the detailing of the panels on the ventral saucer and the way the light diffuses across it) suggested a physical model to me, although the other ships in the scene appear to be CGI. I'm uncertain, though.
Anyway, I suddenly thought "If that is a physical model, then it could be the Trinculo!" and decided to float the idea here. We know they were still doing some physical shots during the seventh season (witness the new footage of the Nash a few episodes later in "Chrysalis") so it seemed possible. Of course, that could be a CGI shot of DS9 itself, in which case it wouldn't make any sense for the Galaxy to be otherwise when all other elements were CGI.
Thoughts?
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I don't believe we ever saw the E-D from that angle in "Emissary," though. Over the past several months, I've been watching the DS9 DVDs in order and I don't recall any such shot in any previous episode of the series, actually.
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Hm. Then unless anyone can come up with something different, I'm happy saying it's either an unused shot from "Emissary" or the elusive Trinculo.
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I agree with Aban- it's the tandard TNG shot we've seen a zillion times composited in there.
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CGI composite. I always thought it absurd that a supposedly busy "hub of commerce" space station never seemed to have that many ships docked to it. I think around the 3rd or 4th season they added some triangular ship and then the runabouts but in general I would've expected much more for a spaceport.
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I agree - always got the impression DS9 was, as far as the wider galaxy went, a bit of a backwater place and not of much interest to many of the major powers other than as a staging point for use of the wormhole.
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Well, what I mean specifically is that the station was only really a waystation for civilians for that brief period between the discovery of the wormhole and the breaking out of hostilities with the Dominion.
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The Vor'cha is CG (the color of the texture gives it away - I've seen that texture far too many times...), and the Warbird is CG, too (take a close look at the nose). So I guess it's safe to assume that the Galaxy is CG, too. The window lights are clearly visible in that shot, and I doubt they'd dig out the model, do some additional shots just to add some lights to the ship to give it some more depth and imsert it somwhere in a corner of a 2-second stock shot.
IIRC, there are only two existing shots of a model Galaxy docked at DS9; the Emissary/Birthright/The Jem'Hadar-footage (E-D docked at upper pylon, camera facing upwards from the docking ring) and the (modified) Venture from WotW.
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I really don't think it would be worth the effort for them to take a non-cgi lower grade 2nd generation (by that point of editing) composite of stock E-D footage from TNG and put it into a CGI scene of a Galaxy docked at Deep Space Nine.
Considering the season 6 Finale had the Galaxy in it, it most possibly could be that ship. Doesn't look like a physical model E-D to me, anyway. A Larger cap would be nice. Oh and just one more thing - look at the light source on the Galaxy Class ship - and the station - it all matches. I don't think they would have sifted through footage to find a shot where the light shines from some exact angle and then match it up to DS9 footage or vice versa.
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That's CGI most likely... and if it's the USS Galaxy they are using the pylon and angle to hide the battle damage.
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If they had all the models available as CGI, I have no doubt it's all CGI. Unless it's just rediculously easy to composite existing footage with new elements.
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