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The font on the nacelles is wrong in the renders. And that's the nicest I can be.
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Oh, dear GOD. That is the most ugly ship I have seen in my life.
(And yes, I said that out loud when I saw the first picture. Revolting.)
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Blasted work firewall. Although why they'd feel the need to un-block TrekWeb at all, let alone just at lunchtime, is beyond me. So I've finally seen the pics.
And. . . I LIKE it! God help me. I'm not an avid follower of trends in fan designs, but this has something. I wouldn't even call it NX'ed. It's just a well-done re-think allowing for 40 years of evolution in starship looks. I think perhaps the notch/cutaway in the neck may be overdoing it a bit, but that's all.
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It's not bad. The modelling is obviously very good, it's just certain details I'm not partial to. The deflector looks quite nice in one of the renders(where you can see it's copper coloured), but in most of the others it looks like one of those blender things people have in their plug holes.
The shuttle looks cool from the front, but I'm not sure about the exposed area at the back. It doesn't fit with the rest of the design, and it seems like a step back from the designs in Ent.
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I like most of the shuttle, except for the open area and the windows. The rest of the design looks pretty good to me. With some tweaks, it could fit into the timeline between the original shuttle and the STV version quite easily.
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It looks like it's made of vacuum formed plastic, especially that weird bit behind the bridge. But that may not be a bad thing. We live in an age in which the arms industry is designing plastic tanks. Perhaps future starships will indeed be made of plastic of some sort. However, I can find no reasonable justification for that contouring behind the bridge. Stealth doesn't wash, because why bother stealthing that little bit when the rest of the ship looks like it does? And in several places there are what seem to be unnecessary and self indulgent fripperies, like the extremely tapered ends on the nacelles. Why? What's the point? Do they make it go faster or something?
Marks out of 10: 7 for interest and imagination, but needs alot more work (and a few deletions) before it gets into 8+ territory.
quote:Originally posted by Zefram: I'm not quite getting his shuttlecraft designs, though. What are the exposed conduits running along the shuttlecraft's fuselage? Seems like it would be risky to expose something so important-looking to the environment.
Seems like an excellent idea. Remember that the external environment isn't the problem. Crew safety is the problem. Trek has excelled at implying that it's ships are death traps. I personally wouldn't travel from here to the moon in the Enterprise for fear of being blown up by a qwerty keyboard made from semtex or blasted across the room in a jet of superheated plasma from a conduit which the designer saw fit to conceal behind a very flimsy vanity panel right next to my bunk bed!
The shuttle design is excellent from the point of view of crew safety because when those conduits blow (and this is Star Trek - they will blow) they will vent their lethal contents harmlessly into space and the biggest problem the crew will have is turning a cut-off valve and managing their remaining fuel supply.
Look at contemporary manned spacecraft designs. The explosive and otherwise potentially volatile substances are usually kept in robust containers outside the crew compartment. If this means putting them external to the main airframe, so be it. Better that the stuff vents outwards rather than cutting it's way through other vital machinery on it's way to the outer hull.
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I think that looks pretty awesome. To be sure, I'm in love with the old (E-nil) design. But this is a very cool riff on that design. I think I especially like what he's done with the bussard collectors and the deflector. Reading through GCK's comments on the page reveales he did not intend it to be a evolutionary step between NX and E-nil.
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Hey thanks much. I should note its not designed to fit into existing canon at all or be a tweener between NX-01 and 1701, its a reimagined 'what if' ship.
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I like everything on the shuttle except the exposed conduits: that side pennant may as well be a big red arrow saying "Shoot HERE!".
quote:The shuttle design is excellent from the point of view of crew safety because when those conduits blow (and this is Star Trek - they will blow) they will vent their lethal contents harmlessly into space and the biggest problem the crew will have is turning a cut-off valve and managing their remaining fuel supply.
Plus the, you know... spiralling out of control as the blown conduit acts as the world's biggest RCS thruster. If that happens near your home ship, you'd be doing the ol' "Kamikaze run at the Odyssey".
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quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: I'm Jason's evil twin - I like everything BUT the nacelles, which IMO are over done. Cover the grille up with a lid, and it's gold.
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I dont like the rear of the nacelles, and in truth, I like the nacelles more as a "Enterprise C" era design, but I was trying to be positive about this thing.
It looks....unfinihed. Like they had to launch the ship a few weeks before construction was completed (the deflector in particular looks like it's missing a cowling).
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Plus Gabe still has to add textures to the dorsal side of the saucer.
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What are you call complaining about? It isn't different enough from the original Enterprise to merit vomiting. *I* think its great.
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