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Nim
The Aardvark asked for a dagger
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This really pisses me off. Plagiarism is just unforgivable, it's the worst. But listen to yourselves, people. You've got to say "I'm a human being, goddamnit! My life has value!".
I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell "I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

I'm serious, I want you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take this anymore!" Things have got to change! But first, you've gotta get MAD! Then we'll figure out what to do about plagiarizing and show cancellations and Michael Bay. But first get up out of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and really say it: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!!"

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Shik
There's a million things I haven't done, but just you wait
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Someone watched Network for the first time last night.

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Jason Abbadon
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Or was tortured while that was on and took it as his new core persona to escape the horror...
His new stats line tells it all- this "Paganini" chap must have gotten to him.

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Shik
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That ststline's been there for ages. It's Seaman Jones.

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"I never agreed with Jefferson once—we have fought on like seventy-five different fronts. But when all is said & all is done...Jefferson HAS beliefs; Burr has none."

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Nim
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Seriously, stop channeling Data.
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Daniel Butler
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I don't believe in intellectual property as such, as in, the concept that an idea can be 'owned.' I do believe in creative property, though - to the extent that if you create something, even if its based of the creation of someone else, it ought to be your creative property. In other words, if I had my way, if you made up some deck plans, even based on Paramount's Nova class, it'd still be legally yours and the Maquis would have to pull the stuff.
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Aban Rune
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Well yah. It's no different than if someone (say me for instance) did a painting of the Nova Class (which I have) and someone started using it as part of the graphic header on their fan site without asking (which has happened). Just because I didn't design the Nova Class, doesn't mean the painting is up for grabs. Same thing here. Just because Treknophile didn't design the ship or come up with the idea of deck plans, doesn't mean his artwork can be grabbed and posted as someone else's work.

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Bernd
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First off, I don't think that it matters a lot whether the original creator made the deck plans just for fun or whether it's being sold. It is theft of intellectual property. Although the legal situation may be different, I don't think it should matter either whether the deck plans are based on another copyrighted work (Nova) or an original ship. At least as long as the original copyright holder is accordingly credited and if the original work is not harmed (which is definitely not the case, considering that there will be never official deck plans).

The plans on that web site are a blatant rip-off of a kind that has become quite customary. It is wrong because it doesn't credit Strategic Design. And even if they did credit you it would give you a bad reputation because of the low quality of the reproduction. So, at the very least, the makers of the RPG ought to credit you *and* replace it with something better.

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Mikey T
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Send them me as an Orion Slave Girl... that should stop them.

I don't know about the IP of art... even art that is copied over and over. If it were illegal to copy artwork from Star Trek, a lot of us would have been in jail already.

Then again I'm neither an artist nor lawyer.

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Treknophile
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You have to admire the cojones of this guy - big brass ones no doubt.
Go to: http://wiki.maquis.com/w/Image:Nova_Bridge.jpg
Do those look familiar? Check out the 'created by' tag.
This is stolen work. Any ideas? Comment?

[ September 04, 2007, 08:33 PM: Message edited by: Treknophile ]

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Malnurtured Snay
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Are you linking to the right page?

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Treknophile
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My bad.

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Teh PW
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wow. someone actually looks at that tripe? Nova Class Assault ship? uh, last i check, wasn't the marquiz, like DS9, deader than fiction?

yeah, it's rippage. It's always been easier to steal something/conquer/force 'em to reservations/etc. from someone/something/someplace/some people/etc. than making it yourself. how else does the world get by with stuff that America or Japan already made/makes/has a pattent/etc.?

or used to make... or outsourced to India...

/me ponders this and really, really gets fucking depressed....

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Treknophile
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Fast service!
I sent an email to this gentleman:
Samuel Cummings
International Coordinator, MFI
I received a response at 5:11 am this morning.
He apologized for the problem and said he would remove any/all images immediately.
Then he sent another email 12 minutes later, stating he had done so. I wasn't eben awake yet.
A gentleman, so far as I'm concerned.

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Mars Needs Women
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I still see it on their page. http://wiki.maquis.com/w/Nova_Assault
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