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This isn't a concept model, it's just a commercial Enterprise-B kit that's been hastily bashed together, for who knows what purpose. I can't believe people are actually bidding on this, it's not even worth the cost of the postage.
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Well, it says that it has been assembled from a liscensed product.
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Yes, like, a commercial Ent-B kit Licensed products are the kind you find in Wal*Mart. Licensed just means "Paramount knows we made an Excelsior model and won't sue us for it because we're giving them a cut."
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Exactly, so anyone bidding should have read the description and would therefor theoretically be fine with the fact that they could make the model themselves.
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Has anyone got DECENT caps of A Time To Stand!?! I couldn't see THAT many ships in that opening shot. I don't think we even pinned down most of the Tech Manual ships.
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Actually, I think people came to a fairly firm conclusion about which ship on screen matched up with which model, possibly with some models left over that were supposedly seen on screen but couldn't be found in caps.
Yet another ship turning up would throw a spanner in the works, only this model isn't anywhere near the quality of the ones that we know were on screen (which is really saying something, since the Yeager and Raging Queen are so shoddy). We might never know for certain if this ship was in a shot somewhere, but it doesn't seem very likely. It's certainly more convenient to assume it wasn't. It's hideous.
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I second Andrew's question. I�ve seen analysis done on that scene, I think on MMoM:s page, but I would also like to see dvd-quality large caps of that scene.
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quote:This isn't a concept model, it's just a commercial Enterprise-B kit that's been hastily bashed together, for who knows what purpose.
I'm sure the person who wrote up the eBay listing had no idea what it was, so he/she just settled for "concept model" as a good enough definition, similar to the four-nacelled Miranda and the three-nacelled Akagi models.
But it's obvious (to me anyway) that this particular model was one of the kitbashes made for the DS9 season opener. IIRC, Drexler told me that everyone in the VFX department made at least one kitbashed starship for "A Time to Stand," but that they were all built very fast because they were on a deadline & had to film them right away. That's why they all look hastily-made, especially this specimen. They were probably all filmed, but only a few made it into the final shot, although this one doesn't have the weird mustard paint scheme as the others do, for whatever purpose that serves.
The only ships we can identify without a doubt were Dan Curry's model and the Centaur. Since Dan obviously put more work into his model than most of the others, it's logical that it was seen up close. (the Centaur model was seen up close too, but it was moving so fast that its shoddy construction couldn't be made out, whereas the Curry was moving very slowly and was more prominent.)
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"the three-nacelled Akagi models"?? I do remember the four-nacelled Miranda, but what is that?
Also, I thought we saw three "new" ships in that scene, Dan's model was the one to the right, but wasn't there also two unidentifiable ships up to left?
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If this was one of the "Time to Stand" models then it wasn't finished and most likely not used. As rushed as the others were they at least had some semblance of a paint job. I mean come on, there's not a lick of paint on this thing, it's all white and I'd be very surprised if it would photograph at all well. I think it's a reject, it's junk and the first person to try and make it canon gets a thick ear!
quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: Drexler did tell me that other people built more kitbashes for the DS9 season opener than were depicted in the DS9 tech manual. He only sent me what he had photos of. So this could very well have been one of those ships, since it looks like it was mounted for filming.
I'm rather glad that this was never really seen. That means we can ignore it as a peyote flash.
I'd ignore it as something puked up by the seller- nothing on this looks made for film- no real lighting rigs either (and that stuff is usually wired prior to assembly or painting).
Crapola design too.
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Licensed products are the kind you find in Wal*Mart. Licensed just means "Paramount knows we made an Excelsior model and won't sue us for it because we're giving them a cut."
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