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Depending on what the movie industry's policy is on computer files, it could be in some hard drive or disc in ILM's archives or stored at Paramount. If it's the latter then I wouldn't be at all surprised if the original mesh was lost. Remember that Warner Bros managed to loose just about ALL of the Babylon 5 Lightwave models!
quote:Originally posted by Reverend: No, from what I gather, the fact files only worked from primary sources, sometimes to a fault.
Nope- the Fact Files version has some sort of Defiant collage thing for the ventral side (which was never actually created for the movie due to the CGI model's low-res nature). It was never intended for scrutiny and so never bothered with- the downside to CGI models. we'd be far better served by getting ahold of whatever sketches were made to work from.
Seriously, that Fact Files thing bugs me no end- stretching parts of the Defiant's top view and pasting them on is a lazy ass thing to do.
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Probably was just the Fact Files people making it up, but there's always the possibility that whoever made the Norway CG model didn't have references for the underside and reused textures from the Defiant.
I remember noticing once that some sections of the Akira's textures looked like they were copied over from the Ent-E.
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Yet, what about what I'm saying. I highly doubt a CGI model built for a motion picture only existed in one file on one computer and was never saved anywhere else or worked on by anyone else. Someone, somewhere has a copy of it - and the others used in FC.
Yes, and it's a pile of crap.
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quote:Originally posted by Johnny: I remember noticing once that some sections of the Akira's textures looked like they were copied over from the Ent-E.
Nope. That sort of crap is far more noticeable on the Steamrunner model. Quite amusing really.
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So, you´ve seen them? You have them? Share...
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quote:Originally posted by Reverend: No, from what I gather, the fact files only worked from primary sources, sometimes to a fault.
Nope- the Fact Files version has some sort of Defiant collage thing for the ventral side (which was never actually created for the movie due to the CGI model's low-res nature). It was never intended for scrutiny and so never bothered with- the downside to CGI models. we'd be far better served by getting ahold of whatever sketches were made to work from.
Seriously, that Fact Files thing bugs me no end- stretching parts of the Defiant's top view and pasting them on is a lazy ass thing to do.
Well ILM also did a low res (read mostly photo maped) Defiant model, yes? So it's possible someone just slapped the Defiant model's image map on the Norway's otherwise flat and featureless underside?
Actually I'm almost certain that's what happened because the underside of the Sabre's saucer has what looks like the Galaxy's bridge substructure and ILM just so happened to have a photo mapped model of the Nebula they made for Generations (for the warp effect at the end.)
That sounds more likely to me than the Fact Files just making it up. Not that I hold them in high regard or anything, I just don't credit them with that degree of imagination. Case in point, look where they've put the red/green beacons on the saucer. I'll bet you a fiver that's an artefact of the mesh lights being set away from the polys.
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Will I asked Mr. Drexler yesterday in his Emette post about the Norway, and he's responded that he'll investigate.
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Indeed, he's also begun asking people for what ships they'd like to know more about. As you might guess, the post is filled with requests, and a certain Mr. Bernd has compiled a list of ships with little info.
quote:Originally posted by Starship Freak: So, you´ve seen them? You have them? Share...
Sure. I've seen a lot of things. I don't really have the time to render anything right now. Unfortunately, real life dictates that I have to deal with real ships.
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Woot! Sternbach replied to me! I win coolest Flarite O' The Day award- a free beer from my fridge (Sam Adams). And a cool Sternbach interview too! Turns out he's a huge Stargate fan. Smart guy.
Hmmm.....do we know who designed all the ships and such for the Stargate shows?
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That Rick Sternbach interview... it has pictures of his Voyager protoytpe... I don't think i've EVER seen a picture of it's deflector dish - and it's annoyed me for years that I haven't been able to see it - has anyone got a picture of it?
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has compiled a list of ships with little info.
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