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Just watched the first episode: Do I get this right that there was no Starfleet starship in it? Not counting the Dream-Ent, the models in the archive or the shuttles... I guess this is a Star Trek first, is it?
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There were starships on the newsfeed after Picard orders his tea at around 10:25. Not clear though if they were Starfleet.

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Probably. I’m keeping an open mind about the ships in this thread though. They definitely had that Starfleet logo on the first time we saw footage of them, but not in anything since. But knowing what we know now about the origin of these “rogue synths,” where else were they going to get at least half a dozen warships but Starfleet?

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I'm thinking this evacuation fleet were autonomous ships with AI. Obviously the Borg are a big part of this show, so somehow they got control of this fleet and attacked Mars. Maddox and Daystrom used Lore as the basis, Lore figured out what was going on, took over everything.

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Odd how Lore doesn't seem to get brought up anymore. He was never brought up in Nemesis, and never brought up here either. We were told in "Descent, Part II" he would be dismantled, but where's he being stored?

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quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
There were starships on the newsfeed after Picard orders his tea at around 10:25. Not clear though if they were Starfleet.

Yes, I noticed those as well. Reminded me of the fleet in Battle Star Galactica. Those ships looked to me more like civillian freighters.
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They are actually large cargo carriers with Tugs attached a la Franz Joseph’s Ptolemy. They seem to be new designs and definitely not reuses of the DSC tug seen in Children of Mars. So these tugs and the synth flyers are the newest Starfleet vessels to date.

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What silluoette is that?

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Shik
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MA notes it fits Eaves' stupid "Emmett Till" design for the DS9 S8 storyboard.

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Dukhat
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Michael Chabon tweeted that the ibn Majid's class name is "Curiosity" (presumably named after the Mars rover). However, that doesn't actually answer the question of if that's the same class as the Emmett Till. But I have a sneaking suspicion that it is. Leave it to Eaves to just recycle a ship design not specifically made for the show it’s being used in, just like his shuttle and his Discoprise.

For the love of fucking God, can we get someone who can design one damn original Starfleet ship?

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Shik
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Can't hit the like button for Dukhat's speech fast enough.

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My nerd fantasy is Jefferies, Probert, Sternbach, et al. ready to go all MMA on his butt.

Who's sucked enough to be on the Eaves team, though?

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Dukhat
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So, no Starfleet ships in episode 9. Only one more episode to go. At this point, I'm actually hoping we don't see any new ships this season. Because if we did, they'd be designed by Eaves, and they'd be his usual boring derivative crap he's been doing for the last 25 years. Maybe by season two, with Chabon leaving and a new showrunner coming aboard, they'll get a new head ship designer.

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What silluoette is that?

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Dukhat
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You asked that already. Read the responses.

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