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Lee
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It was a thing I threw together in MS Paint in about 1998. You only know you’re of the Flare old guard if you remember it without Googling!

Funny thing is there’s a coloured-in version someone did on DeviantArt...

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Lee
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Shipingtons!

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Lee
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Another one there coming into Spacedock, bottom right.

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Fucking YIKES.

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I still can't figure out how everything is suppose to fit in that saucer unless Starfleet has learned TARDIS technology.

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Looks like to me that all five ships in those two screenshots are actually the same class, although two of them are flying upside-down (for whatever reason). Those ships remind me of the USS Centaur...
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There are lots of other saucer-only classes in Starfleet.

I see 4 different classes in those pictures.

1.) The one above the starbase seems to have a pod or secondary hull from which the pylons extend.

2.) Romulan warbird-esque ship left of the starbase and entering the starbase

3.) Miranda-esque ship right of the starbase and under the Cerritos. Could be #2 flipped.

4.) California class

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Lee
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#2 and #3 definitely look like the same design, flipped.

#2 reminds me of that initial Reliant study model with the nacelles above the saucer.

#3 looks like an Akira with Miranda (extended primary hull) and Centaur (the placing and angle of pylons) elements.

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Sorry, I have to agree with o2. With the exception of the Cerritos, all the other ships look exactly the same to me, with some just flipped upside down presumably to give some sense of ‘difference.’ But they are just generic far background ships with minimal detail, so I don’t really care. I’m sure if there are other ships in the show that feature prominently, they’ll be better detailed.

Although the Cerritos herself isn’t all that detailed, so who the heck knows.

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That one above Spacedock is different to the two on either side. And, I mean, look, nobody’s making too much of these ships, but, hey, how long have we wanted to see post-VOY ships? It’s hardly worth being blasé and jaded about it, but neither are we trying to make anything major out of it, even if, technically speaking, these are canon. If that means anything anymore. Or if you prefer to start picking & choosing what is canon based on your aesthetic opinions of any given Trek property.

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I thought the one above Spacedock was different too, but I think it just looks different from that angle. I could be wrong though, since as I said, the ships are too far in the background to make out specific details other than ‘saucer section, nacelles, and pylons.’

And if that rant about ‘canon’ was aimed at me, I’m not sure what you mean. I never said these ships aren’t canon.

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Lee
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Not particularly. I just feel that top ship definitely looks different. Sure it’s another iteration of the Miranda configuration but length and angle of nacelles and the saucer make it distinct.

It’s annoying, because the other ship looks better with nacelles under, so we could just shrug and say the one with nacelles over was just flying upside down for some reason. But there’s also a pair of them in the Spacedock, and the one we’d want to say is upside down is the one flying in through the doors, and why would you enter Spacedock upside down?

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Probably because the animators aren’t taking this anywhere near as seriously as the fans are.

But if I were to put on my Flare hat, I’d say that there’s precedence here, what with the reuse of the Jenolan in DS9 as a transport which flies in and docks at the station while upside down.

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I'm just glad not to see any generic Excelsiors or Mirandas any more, but something new that fits the 2380s. And maybe we get a better look at those ships/that ship in the cause of the series.
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Other than the one above Spacedock (or whatever Spacedock-style station it might be), they all look like the same design to me. I don't see any way that the other ship could be the same, though. It appears to be a traditional saucer->neck->secondary hull->nacelles design, just with the nacelles going down instead of up. It's hard to tell, but it looks like the saucer might have more of a Voyageresque arrowhead shape.
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