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Timo
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However, there's something to be said for sheer bulk: a modern destroyer could pound a WWII battleship for the better part of a week, until her Harpoon magazines ran empty, and the battleship would simply ignore the pitiful little missiles and approach to the range of her main guns, fire one shell and reduce the destroyer to aluminum toothpicks. As ships get more compact, they also get optimized to fight more compact adversaries...

The Kazon behemoths may be respectable adversaries to more modern vessels simply because of lots of body armor, or because of primitive but HUGE and NUMEROUS and thus powerful shield generators.

Also, a chronological difference may turn the tables in other ways as well: ancient weapons might take modern defences by surprise. See the tommy-gun against the Borg, or imagine a light WWII bomber raiding a modern airbase whose missiles refuse to lock onto the wooden toyplane and whose interceptors cannot match the speed or turning radius or ground-hugging maneuvers of the intruder...

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I have a side view of the D'Kazanak from a familiar homepage I don't recall. Probably not canon.
It looks like the D'Deridex, except the lower wings are removed, so the nacelles are hanging from the upper wings, and it has a belly.
Kinda "D'deridex meets K'vort"
Looks better IMO. More compact. Just what we've been looking for!

Does anyone know how the modern romulan plasma-torpedo compares to the photon and quantum?

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Timo, agreed, but you forget that a WB's hull is not much stronger or thicker then that of a Galaxy / Vor'cha / Whatever and that it is constructed from similar materials... and phasers do not run out of ammunition, unlike those Harpoon missiles... also,
between second World war and present day generation fighter aircraft there are much greater differences then between Kazon motherships and, say, Intrepid-class starships (the Intrepid is more advanced, but relative to its time not as much as today's fighters are ahead of WW 2 fighters)
The Kazon mothership has tons of armor, but I have yet to see any of their vessels with shields... a few good blasts at the unshielded (and unarmored) engines would disable the big mama quite fast IMHO.

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Size doesn't give you tactical superiority unless your a borg cube. The defiant could take on 2 regular warbirds. and probably kick the shit out of the 2000m warbird like she did to the Negh'Var. How many kazon ships did it take to capture Voyager in Basics?
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Timo: I think one harpoon missile would send a WWII vintage battleship to the bottom very easily.

Oh,Does anybody have a pick of the Romulan WB that is featured on the PC game Birth of a Federation?

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Do you mean this one?

D'Kazanak class

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Timo, that's (I'm sorry) totally incorrect. If you took a modern destroyers missiles and hit a battleship (WW2) with them, the battleship would sink like a sardine can full of rocks.

Your example bears no relevance.

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Size isn't everything, but it does have its' advantages. Check on the modern day weaponry, getting bigger is a definiate trend.

And starship are not design to "explode" on impact; you would want to survive an attack rather than "rammed" your enemy in a suicide attack, and it does not carry explosive materials up to 1/3 of it's body weight!

no offence, but comparing a missle to a batteship is not a very promising evident


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Absolutely, Laz! It seems to be a good design. Now if the author could make a forward view, one could start to imagine it in 3d.

I share the opinion that a 350-450m ship is all the size you need to mount the weapons-arrays of today, like the Akira and the Prometheus. That's what the romulans need, not another behemoth.

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I don't think that Romulan warbird, the D'deridex and the others are much easier to build... It's the contrary they are big so it's long to build much longer than shorter ships so the true reason it's they are military peoples with believe in D'era.They want to conquer and dominated the stars... they maked preparation to obtain their goal... Huge fleets is the key to dominated what they want.

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Mmm...precisely year old threads.

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Michael Dracon
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I hope the Romulans have learned a lesson out of the Dominion war and the Prometheus accident. They are really in need of a smaller ship, or at least more weapons. The Warbirds in DS9 and Voyager seem to have only a single forward array...

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The smallest vessels are not inevitably the key at the time of a battle but rather of a complement. The large vessels have innumerable advantages on the smallest vessels.

They have better weapons in greater number with better shields without counting the shielding which is higher. They are larger thus more structures to be destroyed.they bring much more troops of soldiers.

It is not because a small vessel as the Defiant is modern that the others larger are not. The Federation are not people of war, they do not have as much experience or the knowledge in this field than the Romulans or Klingons for example.

Moreover I add that Romulans have already and will increase and add new classes of Bird of Prey who is the equivalent of the Federation Escort Class like Defiant in other. The first of the kind in the revival will be Vithrel-Class swift bird of prey envisaged into 2376 thus it is already made.

While passing what we see in Startrek it is well what they want to show us, it is not because D`deridex fire from the front only that they do not have others weapons elsewhere. Remember that!!

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A new upgrade programm for the legendary D'deridex class is scheduled to begin in 2378.

The new singularity torpedo(black hole) introduced on the Vereleus-Class Dreadnought in response to Starfleet quantum torpedo. Improved armaments, improved cloak , new sensors, etc...
Many new Warbirds will arrived soon like the T'Kassan-class. Others already exist but are not known like D'Valek-Class Swift Warbird(Very Fast). An other Dreadnought the Praetorian-class in 2379 and many more..... They do not have just of Warbirds but also cruisers, Frigates, Gunships etc...


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uh....what?

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